Landing Technique

[ICEWOLF378 0]

I want to improve my landings and I have questions.I hope this topic will be helpful with the answers from the masters for who have questions like me.

 

1-First of all, my NGX nose touchs down very quickly after landing.Can I keep avay from this situation or is this characteristic for 737?

2-How can I touch down with right speed? I think it should be vref-5 but I always can't keep.Can I put the throttles to idle above 10 AGL?

 

I also want this topic to be a asking place to rookie pilots like me.

 

Thank you,

[Spin737 102]

The nosewheel should come down shortly after the mains. You don't want to keep the nosewheel in the air.

 

I go to idle at 30ft or less. Some guys I fly with hold the thrust in until they almost touch down. Don't float down the runway and don't get too nose high and cause a tail-strike.

 

Have fun!

[Aamir 2,422]

Remember it's a smooth reduction to idle, not a snap back to 23.7 or whatever the NGX idles at. So, don't hit F1 to jam those thrust levers back (if that's what you're doing).

[outofphaze 4]

This is actually the biggest difference between the actual plane and the pmdg version.

 

In the real plane you start your flare, so nose pitch up, before you reduce to idle. If you idle before flare then you will have a very hard touch down.

 

In the pmdg version however, I find that you have to reduce to idle, almost at 40ft or so, because if you don't, it just keeps floating. Your nose gear should come down about 2 to 3 seconds after main gear touch down as you fly the nose wheel down, so don't let it fall!

 

Basically, in the NGX, if you are at the correct approach speed and at 50 ft over the threshold as you should be, start reducing at the threshold and go idle somewhere around the 30 call. Keep nose at steady altitude after the 10 call and slowly let the back sink down. 

[lodestar 186]

The real world landing tehnique works just fine with NGX. Idle at 40 is a way to early in my opinion, you can start to reduce power at 50 - 40 - 30ft depending on situations, aiming for idle at 20ft if winds are steady.

Watch a couple of landings on autopilot, you should do something like that. 

 

My tehnique:  Like i said, i usually start to reduce power at 50 - 40 - 30ft(most of time at 30ft) depending on situations, aiming for idle at 20ft, initiating flare at 30ft, pitch up only 2-2.5 degrees. Sometimes i use MD11 and 727 tehnique - all same, but i add pitch down 1 degree just before touchdown. This will prevent floating, and can be used with most of airliners. I heard that works well with GA too. 

 

Nosedown after touchdown is quite realistic, but depends on speed also. You should "fly" nosewheel to the ground after landing, becouse if speed drops - the nosegear should drop realy hard too

In my opinion, you can do the most realistic landings in FSX with NGX, MD11 and Leonardo Maddog. 

[scandinavian13 5,192]

 

 

Remember it's a smooth reduction to idle, not a snap back to 23.7 or whatever the NGX idles at.

 

Solid advice!

 

For any aircraft ,btw...

I used to pull back to idle pretty quickly when I was in PPL training and it really affects your landing profile significantly.

[Lucasvh 8]

I reduce my speed to idle at 20-30ft and then I pull the nose up, but just enough to make a 'medium hard' landing. And then,about 0.5 seconds after I hear the '10' callout I pull the nose up a little bit just so that I can make a handsome greaser. It works for me nearly all the time but when it's really windy it gets harder to do so. If you notice that you start to float, push your joystick/yoke forward so you get 0 or  -1 pitch (or just around 0) Then when you start to sink you start to flare again . This works for me in most occasions.  Good luck!

[Vagabondo 23]

As Zeljko says, the real world technique works great in NGX. This is a bit of a discussion killer, the answer is in the Flight Crew Training Manual (FCTM) included with NGX. In summary, at around 20', smoothly initiate the pitch up (only about 5-7 degrees pitch attitude, not much at all) and then slowly reduce the thrust levers to be idle at touch down. This will ensure a nice positive landing well withing the touchdown.

 

There is no flare as such when landing a 737. Very similar to three pointing a tail wheel, you simply set the landing attitude and hold it there until touchdown.

[Christopher Low 4,792]

I don't have any problem landing the 737NGX smoothly when pulling the power back to idle just before the flare. Mind you, the power is usually already down to about 55% at that point, so maybe it's different for you guys that "fly by the book".