I for one am waiting for a HondaJet.  

 

Oh my, yes! Looking at the photo Ray posted, and looking at pictures on the Interwebs, that is just about as perfect a bizzjet as you could have. I am having "reservations" about the Milviz King Air 350 if only because it is larger than what I typically like to fly (6 passengers or less). Love the B55 and P38 I have, but the King Air is a big aircraft - well, unless you are a tube liner type! 

 

Two things really puzzle me about the Honda Jet: how can those engine mounting booms handle the torque stress, and how did they fit a lav in there!!!    :lol:

Two things really puzzle me about the Honda Jet: how can those engine mounting booms handle the torque stress, and how did they fit a lav in there!!!  

 

If you watch the video in this link you can at times get a good look at the engine support booms.  They are thicker than they may look, are swept back, and are about the length of the engine as they leave the wing, and more than half the length of the engine where they meet it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejZyylSA7Cg

 

In regard to the lavatory, there are a couple of relevant photos at this next link. Depending on how the page loads, you may need to select Gallery, and then Interior.   One photo shows how there is a space to walk between the rear seats, but to where?  Then in the photo of the lav if you look closely you will see the doors are pocket doors.  They don't swing, instead they slide into the partition wall.

 

http://hondajet.honda.com/gallery-and-downloads/

 

Go Ravens!  Screenshot of flight from New Orleans to Baltimore following the 2013 Super Bowl.  Note the tail number is the final score of the game, with a W.

 

 

any 60s/70s era jet...ie Saberliner, Jetstar, HS125....etc

 

I think if you look through the library hard enough you might find some Sabreliners and panels for FS2002 and 2004, but nothing beyond that.

Heya Frank, 

 

Okay, so the engine mounts make sense: they isolate engine vibration from the fuselage, removing the dreaded Mad Dog 80 noise from the cabin. 

 

And yeah, I was looking at a top-down view, with a golf bag laid laterally from port to starboard transom - it was about as long as it could get. But, there was a lav in there!

 

Very cool bizzjet - makes the Mustang Citation look like a relative slug in performance and range. 

 

Hope they don't have a licensing issue like Gulfstream...

For the price tag allergics:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/iai-westwind-1124.425570/ (Whenever it will be finished.)

http://www.robertjamesrichardson.co.uk/ (scroll down)

Cool! That DH125 - did hawker but them out?

Hope they don't have a licensing issue like Gulfstream...

 

No, don't think so.  Honda is the licensor, not the licensee.  Beyond that, both companies have joint investment in the engine manufacturing complex, so there is deeply vested interest and benefit on both sides.  GE relishes the role of marketing the engines to 3rd parties, and has its signature on the refinements that were necessary for certification, which is now complete for the engine.  The aircraft is awaiting final certification after some small but of course important issue, I believe with icing certification.   Both the engine and the aircraft manufacturing facilities are complete and fully developed and staffed.  They are literally on the starting line waiting for the gun to go off.  Production engine manufacturing may already be underway.  BTW, you can likely tell.  I am a H retiree and have followed the early development and this go for launch project closely since about 1992.

 

Also BTW, the small screenshot of a HondaJet in my earlier post above is a somewhat credible model created by a Japanese fellow in 2006 and last refined in 2008.  Its OK for a start, but is not anywhere near payware quality.  So I wait for better.

 

 

The Honda Jet evidently has room for a family with a couple of kids and two nice Border Collies.

 

Checkout the offset from center on the engine mount. Interesting. . .

 

Ray

I started looking at images of the HJ engines/mounts and this is the best one that really shows how substantial the attachment to the wing really is. Wow. I sure hope someone brings out a FSX model for us to play with.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

Thanks, Ray. Those engines are going to torque the frame in multiple directions, but knowing Honda (I have owned a few in my lifetime), they know what they are doing!

 

That is a TON of luggage!

Thanks, Ray.  

That is a TON of luggage!

Agreed. With that payload they probably have about 50 miles of fuel load available.  :unsure:

 

Take a look at the close up of the rear quarter image. That is some hefty stuff. I don't see much difference in the EMTOW placement vs the more conventional aft fuselage mounts.

 

I've never owned a Honda but I do have an Acura and it has been well designed and mostly trouble free (it is a single engine fixed gear model but has a great Nav system that you can actually talk to)

 

Ray

 

 

It's a pity Gulfstream is so steadfast about their policy on sharing data or allowing FSX reproductions of their aircraft to be created.. Would love a G550/650 for some FSX tomfoolery!

 

Absolutely, it's a real shame. I believe there's a similar obstacle to getting a Dassault Falcon in FSX as well.

 

 

 

Checkout the offset from center on the engine mount. Interesting. . .

 

If I had to take a wild guess I'd say they had to offset the engine bearer so as not to interfere with the oil sump and pump which would be at the bottom of the engine nacelle.

 

 

I believe there's a similar obstacle to getting a Dassault Falcon in FSX as well.

 

I believe Dassault paired up with Wilco Publishing back in June, which lead to their "Elite" model series, the TBM850 being an example.

 

It may be an exclusive arrangement, so all Dassault aircraft are likely to be sourced from Wilco. I *really* like their TBM850, so a Falcon could be very cool!

and this.........

 

 

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/canadair-challenger-605.404789/page-11

 

Greg

Honda Jet is what happens when you leave engineers alone with a keg of beer, and unsupervised.

 

"We Are Smart And Imaginative!"... and drunk.

 

 

I hope it can do well, as it'll provide some good temporary jobs.

 

Soon there after, if they can reach 3 figures in sales, more temporary jobs will be created to fix AD's and metal fatigue.