May 21, 201412 yr is this normal in P3D? I mean...all the terrain turns into large block blotches...but...when you get down to around 5,000 from altitude..the scenery once more coalesces, and you get clear forming detail. Is this supposed to happen?!?!? FSX never did this! I have always been around no higher than 3,500 feet... so didn't ever see this effect of the scenery and terrain, turning into a splotched mess.... Does anybody else see this? I must add that I have all terrain at full detail in the Scenery Config. The stock LOD setting is 6.5, but I have taken it up to 9.5, to avoid light and terrain popping. Would this have anything to do with this?, or could a custom scenery install be conflicting? Could a driver issue also do this? I dunno...just musing...will figure it out...unless someone has already gone through this...and came up with a solution, or the culprit.
May 21, 201412 yr Author Got it...it was the LOD setting of 9.5 I lowered it in the .cfg file to 7.5, and all is clear again...passing through 18,000 for FL350....
May 21, 201412 yr Interesting effect! Sascha Rieger | EVO Developer What is EVO • How to get Evo 2016 • FS9 Evolution Forum
May 21, 201412 yr Author Interesting effect! I had the LOD at 9.5...and had blurs.. I lowered it to one above the stock....6.5------>7.5, and I am in a paused flight at FL470 in the Raptor...and still have very good clarity and focus on the terrain, 47,000 feet below me! Back to my nose-bleed terrorizing of the air....above Michigan...
May 21, 201412 yr Author You know...part of the fun, (some call it a PITA, but not me...learning, is never a PITA!) of P3D, is pushing it...prodding it, massaging it...and see what happens. I have found this morning, that you can take all FSX 'tweaks' out of the STOCK P3D.cfg, and you will get better performance, as you 'tune' the sliders to what you want, or can tolerate, whatever... I had the following added to my P3D.cfg file: [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=84 [bufferPools] UsePools=0 ....and had good performance. Well...After dropping the LOD back to almost what the devs of P3D want you to fly with 6.5....and my nudging it up one factor, to 7.5...and then doing away with any added entry...I found that my sim performance is even better...I have gone up to keeping for the most part (with my same demanding settings...) at a full 27-30, and not merely sitting at 17-22. I think that after trying all sorts of things...it is apparent that P3D and its .cfg file, is a tight ship...that has already been 'tuned' in the coding, and does not need us prodding under the hood by adding tweak lines to the .cfg file. On my machine, it runs best, with my leaving the sim alone...and letting it work, as configured by LM. I will keep the LOD at 7.5...and might just inch up one full value at a time, as my last..er..poke at the can. At the point (it was 9.5) it does a number on the clarity of the terrain from 35,000 feet and down...is where I shall start dropping it by one notch...and see if perhaps, I can go one value higher (8.5) and still maintain texture focus and composition. After that...I won't touch the .cfg file again...will throw the shortcut on my desktop into the garbage can...and just enjoy the sim, and forget about tweaking and interfering with a flight simulator....far into the future. I still am not over (jaded...) how gorgeous this sim looks...(I have been cycling through the seasons)...and all I can say...is another worn out: WOW!) and to have stutter-free animation that makes going 750 knots per hour...REAL in the RAPTOR...is simply beyond anything I have ever seen. I truly, truly pity, any FSX'er...that has made the decision to NOT explore this platform. I was one of them not a week ago...and I am thanking severe curiosity...to have pushed me onto LM's site..and to press the trigger.... P3D...is a game changer....but you will ONLY KNOW, if you fly it for yourself, and THOROUGHLY put it through its paces....flights at all times of the 24 hour clock. Through the 24 hour cycle...amid the seasons....and see the amazing performance of using the Raptor 22 at 500-700 kts...with the terrain SMOOTHLY receding behind your delta wing.... Folks...I preach to the choir, for those that have P3D, and hope to encourage those fence sitters, or outright nay sayers....to try this money-guaranteed platform. Only then, will you know what you HAVE been missing out on, by using any other sim to date. I have them all...and P3D...is reining; King! Long live the King.... One heck of a most Happy Camper....after the week of tuning and growing pains. Totally---------------------------Raptor 22--------------------------------behind me....just like the terrain 1.5 seconds ago.... Final four words...and I will promise to not come onto the forum...and post like a wild man. Those four words are: No O.O.M's to date! OK...this is the last 'WOW' post from me. Time to let the newbies....take over. I'll be too busy flying..... Cheers! Mitch'er
May 21, 201412 yr Moderator Well, I found one sure fire way to get an OOM in P3Dv2.2 yesterday... ...just continue clicking in the aircraft selection window! I was checking and setting radius and bounding box entries for some of my aircraft using Arno's marvelous RADItor.exe utility, and after a dozen or so aircraft selections, began getting the "ding" from FSUIPC warning of an pending OOM. Sure enough, one more selection did the deed... :LMAO: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
May 21, 201412 yr Author Er, I thought that P3D2 ignores any LOD radius greater than 6.5... :huh: Not that I've seen...I'm been doing really well around 7.5...and now will take it to 8.5 in the next flight. Was shooting around Martinsburg, WV...some of the best that Orbx Global can put out...lush forested areas...and beautiful mountains of varying elevations. I am really liking the Raptor, for I can cover huge tracks of Global...and eat up State lines....with what pumps out of those engines!... Just like I left FSX.cfg file alone after years of poking around....all I'm going to finalize in the P3D.cfg..is what LOD I will stay with...and that, we be...that. No more messing around. Just flying.... Well, I found one sure fire way to get an OOM in P3Dv2.2 yesterday... ...just continue clicking in the aircraft selection window! I was checking and setting radius and bounding box entries for some of my aircraft using Arno's marvelous RADItor.exe utility, and after a dozen or so aircraft selections, began getting the "ding" from FSUIPC warning of an pending OOM. Sure enough, one more selection did the deed... :LMAO: Yes...but the good news...is how much you must irritate (LOL!) P3D, before it pull the plug on ya... With FSX...if you sneezed too hard....bye-bye.... n4gix...stop poking around with it...and just...er...fly,...ROTFLMBO! I'm taking my own advice, BTW.....
May 21, 201412 yr Not that I've seen...I'm been doing really well around 7.5...and now will take it to 8.5 in the next flight. Was shooting around Martinsburg, WV...some of the best that Orbx Global can put out...lush forested areas...and beautiful mountains of varying elevations. I am really liking the Raptor, for I can cover huge tracks of Global...and eat up State lines....with what pumps out of those engines!... Just like I left FSX.cfg file alone after years of poking around....all I'm going to finalize in the P3D.cfg..is what LOD I will stay with...and that, we be...that. No more messing around. Just flying.... But does a LOD above 6.5 really make a difference? Could be placebo.
May 21, 201412 yr Author But does a LOD above 6.5 really make a difference? Could be placebo. Oh, nooooooooooooooooooooooo....not at all. Placebo's don't cause scenery to blur down to what looked like the 8 bit days of the Atari.... That is what prompted my thread....there was no 'world' below me...just a mishmash of large non-formed color splotches. I then before the next flight set the LOD back to 7.5...and took the Raptor up over Michgan...to 47,000 feet...and all of the terrain features, were as clear, as if I had been at 10,000 feet. So...the LOD setting does have an effect. I know that I can't go to 9.5....so, will try to cheat it up, one more notch to 8.5 and see if that pluses, or minuses the experience. I DO KNOW that I can run with 7.5...as that has been the setting for an hour or more flight, with clear, well-defined Global.
May 21, 201412 yr I think that after trying all sorts of things...it is apparent that P3D and its .cfg file, is a tight ship...that has already been 'tuned' in the coding, and does not need us prodding under the hood by adding tweak lines to the .cfg file. Old habits are hard to break :lol: Sascha Rieger | EVO Developer What is EVO • How to get Evo 2016 • FS9 Evolution Forum
May 21, 201412 yr Oh, nooooooooooooooooooooooo....not at all. Placebo's don't cause scenery to blur down to what looked like the 8 bit days of the Atari.... That is what prompted my thread....there was no 'world' below me...just a mishmash of large non-formed color splotches. I then before the next flight set the LOD back to 7.5...and took the Raptor up over Michgan...to 47,000 feet...and all of the terrain features, were as clear, as if I had been at 10,000 feet. So...the LOD setting does have an effect. I know that I can't go to 9.5....so, will try to cheat it up, one more notch to 8.5 and see if that pluses, or minuses the experience. I DO KNOW that I can run with 7.5...as that has been the setting for an hour or more flight, with clear, well-defined Global. So with 6.5 you're getting terrible blurries and with 7.5 everything looks fine? Sounds like another issue to me. 6.5 to 7.5 shouldn't have such a big difference.
May 21, 201412 yr Author So with 6.5 you're getting terrible blurries and with 7.5 everything looks fine? Sounds like another issue to me. 6.5 to 7.5 shouldn't have such a big difference. No, no...at 9.5....was the blurs...I brought it down to 7.5 and they cleaned up. I want to try to sneak it to 8.5..and if good...then leave it there. No..it was 9.5..... Old habits are hard to break :lol: No more playing around with P3D.cfg for this guy...just flying it... Either 7.5, or 8.5 for the LOD...and dat's all folks! Lock 'er down....
May 21, 201412 yr No, no...at 9.5....was the blurs...I brought it down to 7.5 and they cleaned up. I want to try to sneak it to 8.5..and if good...then leave it there. No..it was 9.5..... But anything above 6.5 is not supposed to make a difference. I suggest creating a thread at the Prepar3D forums.
May 21, 201412 yr No, no...at 9.5....was the blurs...I brought it down to 7.5 and they cleaned up. I want to try to sneak it to 8.5..and if good...then leave it there. If everything is clean at 7.5 - what are you looking to gain beyond that? And if P3D ignores anything over 6.5, I would imagine 6.5 is the default - and as CB suggested above, there may be zero difference between 6.5 and 7.5 due to 6.5 being the limit. I'm curious what you find as I'm struggling with blurry ground textures but can't get to my PC until tomorrow. Bob Donovan - KBOS
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