Not sure about your observations about ATP.

 

You're right - I'm compressing my timelines.  MS brought out Flight Simulator for the Mac in 1986 (so Microsoft had the rights to at least one non-PC platform).  But the disagreement about ATP didn't happen 'til several years later - '89 or '90.  I had a couple of meetings at SubLogic in '89 (I was starting a monthly magazine about flight simulation) and now that I think about it, ATP wasn't yet a released product at that point.  Microsoft and SubLogic each had rights to certain platforms and things didn't get conflicted 'til later on.

 

Still, proof that there's a long history of complex business arrangements about the product... which makes it even less likely that the current transaction is a simple "sale."  More like an agreement to assign certain rights in certain circumstances.  And as others have said - people who haven't seen the contracts can't possibly describe the terms.

 

Picture a large conference room with all the top dogs from PMDG, Aerosoft, ORBX, Majestic, Real Air, Carenado, FlyTampa, A2A, Milviz, Eaglesoft, Quality Wings, FlightSimLabs, Flight 1, FSDreamteam, FlightBeam, Sunskyjet, Pete Dowson, HiFi Tech, Opus, etc, etc and of course, Tom Allensworth.

 

Actually, in late April of 2009, that meeting did take place with some of those listed here absent. Read my blog.

Are you guys still going on about this....Sheesh  :rolleyes:

 

I am just going to wait for the press release, until then as far as I know Kim Dotcom has bought the thing.  :lol:  :lol: 

http://www.simflight.com/2014/06/10/news-microsoft-flight-simulator/

 

:blink: :mad: :angry: :(

http://www.simflight.com/2014/06/10/news-microsoft-flight-simulator/

 

:blink: :mad: :angry: :(

Not bad if they did the whole world

Are you guys still going on about this....Sheesh :rolleyes:

 

I am just going to wait for the press release, until then as far as I know Kim Dotcom has bought the thing. :lol: :lol:

No, no, no, Kim's focused on smaller things. Like trying to buy New Zealand !

No, no, no, Kim's focused on smaller things. Like trying to buy New Zealand !

..... along with James Cameron !

 

 

Actually, in late April of 2009, that meeting did take place with some of those listed here absent. Read my blog.

 

http://forum.avsim.net/blog/1/entry-111-a-different-dynamic-communications/

 

Hook

Sadly if it was a 64 bit application none of the current addons would work.

I really would not mind a completely new platform from scratch with a long term future. Developers will follow

 

 

Developers will follow

 

............. reluctantly !

............. reluctantly !

Look at FSX. Uptake was very slow but 2 years later it started to boom

My Guess; Austin from XPlane bought it. The 'ONLY' thing he is going to change is the way the flight model is created, he is going to change it to be the same as XPlane - nothing else!!!!!!

I'd like to see Apple take over Flight Sim.  They should do it for the symbolic victory it would represent over Microsoft.

http://forum.avsim.net/blog/1/entry-111-a-different-dynamic-communications/

 

Hook

 

The MOST interesting thing I found in that (well thought out) editorial dated 08 February 2014 is that although Avsim has positioned itself, and claims to be,"the world's largest flight sim site" with over 100,000 members, only 1 (ONE) person had bothered to reply as at today's date (11 June 2014), and only 256 people had bothered to read it (again, as at today's date).

 

No wonder we feel that we are not being listened to. Maybe it is time to take our side-swiping out of the forums and back onto the front page in a manner that can be heard. 

Look at FSX. Uptake was very slow but 2 years later it started to boom

 

Correct. I've seen it with every release of every version. That's why I am using the best of both worlds already.

I will just come out and state a fact that was true as of the closure of negotiations with all but the ultimate licensee... The easiest way to say this is to say what the license did not include. It did not include ESP. It did include everything else; FLIGHT, FSX, and Train Sim 2. Could that have changed in the final negotiations? Sure it could have, but for at least one reason already stated, I doubt it.

 

EDIT: and you can buy a license from MS for ESP too, but you will pay the same as LMOC and Northrup Grumman did. :lol:

 

So in other words it has to be LM someway somehow.

 

They found out they have quite a potential market with P3D and because they cannot sell to the masses because of the agreement they decided to buy the rest, including MS Flight.

 

Why Flight, not because of the flight-model, not because of the scenery quality.

But solely because of netcode for multiplayer, and MAINLY because Steam/Xboxlive implementation, since a lot of the software structure in Flight is similar to P3D this would be much easyer than developing everything from scratch, and LM does have a lot of money.

 

However because LM is a government contractor they also like to stick another name on it instead of looking like they spend tax-money on entertainment purposes, which the public would perceive as wrong.

So they created a "coalition of the willing" or in other words a "Joint-Sim-Front" with another simpartie(s) to create a new brandname or use another to be able to market it.

 

However because LM is a government contractor they also like to stick another name on it instead of looking like they spend tax-money on entertainment purposes, which the public would perceive as wrong.

So they created a "coalition of the willing" or in other words a "Joint-Sim-Front" with another simpartie(s) to create a new brandname or use another to be able to market it.

 

 

Utter nonsense. LM is publicly traded, to do what you describe would be a SEC violation.