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"Microsoft Sells License to FS Franchise" Part 2

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I do not understand why....Flight Sim community and FS addon industry do not copy  the successful business model of Linux (and his kernel).

 

I am not a programmer (Surely, it is the reason because i do not undestand why). but we have an open Source Flight Simulator, 'Flight Gear'. With the talent of many of us, we can convert FlightGear in the core, in the backbone of the XXI century  flight simulation.

 

 

Your point is well understood but asking the community to go back to circa the year 2000 is borderline crazy to say the least, no one's gonna do it.   With options like Outerra is knocking at the door, P3D, and X-Plane we have some viable options/cards (albeit controlled by companies that can pull the plug at any time) still left to play.  That being said FS9 looks 110 times better than 'Flight Gear' and would be an option before people turn to 'Flight Gear' in it's current state.  I wish people got on board with 'Flight Gear' at it's onset but you had an outstanding product called Flight Simulator that was open enough for us to add to it and supported by the main company that helped kick start this technical reality we're living in now.  The best option that would work in your model today would be X-Plane.  I agree with you like Linux we need something open source like Falcon 4.0 where everyone has access to the source code.  How we get there I don't know but at this time our options don't warrant the effort or support to get 'Flight Gear' up to speed (brought into the 21st century).  This may come back to bight us in the tail one day but when that day comes 'Flight Gear' will be there and in better condition than it is today meaning it could be a future option by default.  

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Why would they do that? LM wants to make money so why would they cut off a large portion of their sales?

 

 

Lockheed Martin may not have the option - think about it.

Gerry Howard

Lockheed Martin not have the option - think about it.

 

You've been asserting this doomsday scenario for three years now ever since P3D came onto the scene. 

 

Maybe one day it'll actually happen. No doubt sales of P3D will stop one day, just like with every piece of software. 

The sales they've made to 'the community', or hobbyists, is likely to be an extremely small drop in the ocean of how the platform makes money

The sales they've made to 'the community', or hobbyists, is likely to be an extremely small drop in the ocean of how the platform makes money

 

No one has any idea what drop we represent. Whatever it is, their development and community interaction are good enough for me. They've certainly proven a lot of people wrong to this point who made early assertions on how this would all go down.

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The sales they've made to 'the community', or hobbyists, is likely to be an extremely small drop in the ocean of how the platform makes money

 

 

I think they are likely to be the majority of the money currently produced by Prepar3d platform. Of course that could change over the time when more companies start using the platform for training purposes.

Lockheed Martin may not have the option - think about it.

When you are right you are right. And some day you will not be able to by a new ford soooo.....everyone who owns a ford should be screeming and running  around with their hands into the air. OMG!!!!OMG!!!!OMG!!!!

 

Edit OK that was a cheap shot, so here ....try to understand this. 1. LM is getting a lot of input and quality control out of us as well as some damn good aircraft products buy out devs. But here is the best reason that LM will keep us around for a good long time. We as a hobbie are bringing up a group of young guys and gals who are very used to sitting in a chair for hours and controlling our flights all over the world. Now...the value in that is experience in flying.........wait for it...........wait for it...........DRONES!! and a very big part of the future in the air is of course drones. Love or hate LM but they are a company who looks to the future.

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I think they are likely to be the majority of the money currently produced by Prepar3d platform. Of course that could change over the time when more companies start using the platform for training purposes.

 

That is my opinion as well.

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Maybe this is not happening and is just a dream.

P3D and XPlane moving on their divergent paths,

FSX still being used by most and still a lot of simmers using FS9.

Developers building for FSX and P3D and also for Xplane.

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Once the Announcement is made, pretty sure AVSIM is going to crash from the onslaught. 

 

I have a mitigation strategy for that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am going on a two week cruise in the Med with no Internet connectivity... :Big Grin:

The licence servers will be shutdown. Microsoft can't run licence servers for products they no longer own.

LMOC will be embroiled in a lawsuit with the new owners - billions will be at stake.

LMOC stops selling to simmers and strictly enforces their licence - simmers abandon(ed) in droves

Re-activations of MSFS requires payment to new owners

New owner brings back Flight and DLC

Previous un-released DLC put up for purchase - money rolls in

Simmers up in arms

Riots in the streets

Governments declare marshal law

Third party developers go bankrupt

The economy slumps

...

 

 


We as a hobbie are bringing up a group of young guys and gals who are very used to sitting in a chair for hours and controlling our flights all over the world. Now...the value in that is experience in flying.........wait for it...........wait for it...........DRONES!! and a very big part of the future in the air is of course drones. Love or hate LM but they are a company who looks to the future.

 

Couldn't agree with you more Sam. Most of us here are grey hairs, but for the young bucks at Avsim you are at the right place at the right time as this hobby is now being taken seriously by the aviation corporations.

 

 

 


I am going on a two week cruise in the Med with no Internet connectivity...

I don't believe that for a second Tom. Having the inside information, you are not going to miss out on watching us guess and speculate as this unfolds. :lol:

 

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LMOC will be embroiled in a lawsuit with the new owners - billions will be at stake.

 

As much as I think the new owners may like to do this, as LM selling P3D to the masses will affect their potential sales, they can't! They have no standing. LM's agreement is with MS for their ESP product, which is not the same as what the new licensee will be buying. Only MS can file suit for any potential breach (If one exists). If they haven't done so already, I don't think they will.

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This thread is reminding me of the speculation in the MH370 threads.  And it closely conforms to the blindly poor CNN coverage of that tragedy.

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Unless the new owners are a bunch of lawyers, who see the upside profit, without ever having to write a single line of code.

Somebody we wouldn't expect - tick

Somebody with no relationship with the flight sim community - tick

Somebody with deep pockets - tick

 

Likely - probably not, but who knows.

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