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Are 200LR pilots rated to fly the 300ER, say, after a few hours of differences training? It would be a similar scenario to the 757/767 rating.

 

What about between the 200ER and 200LR?

 

If it starts with 777, it's all the same type rating (the 787 is actually included in that type rating as well, actually).

 

Any type of training beyond that is at the discretion of the operator.

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I have a friend who flew both the 200LR and 300ER for a major airline and he told me some time ago that there is a small differences training as there are SOME system differences but not that much different. His training was a couple days and a few hours in the simulator.

 

He liked the mix of flying both types as he could bid a 15+ hour roundtrip once or twice a month and a round trip or two that are 10 hours roughly and be done with flying for the month. The downside to that was you get less takeoff and landing cycles, so occasionally he would bid a cross country trip that takes him there and back the same day just to get takeoff and landing experience with a short flight.

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If it starts with 777, it's all the same type rating (the 787 is actually included in that type rating as well, actually).

 

Really? I didn't know that. That's quite interesting, thanks! :)

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Really? I didn't know that. That's quite interesting, thanks! :)

But that does not necessarily mean if an operator has both 777s and 787s that pilots will fly both types. At United for example they operate the 777 and 787 as separate fleets, so a 787 pilot cannot fly a 777 even though they have a 777 type and 787 differences training.

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Really? I didn't know that. That's quite interesting, thanks! :)

 

Welcome.  All the FAA type ratings are listed here: http://registry.faa.gov/TypeRatings/?YouCantCacheThis=0.5

 

You'd be surprised at how much is grouped together.

 

Any 737 in existence?  Yep.  Same type rating.  Again, there is some differences training (which is required by the FAA - I should've been a little more clear on that part in my original post: the FAA sets a minimum standard that the operator can train at or above), but it's all the same type.

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Hi Kyle,

 

Interesting document! However I'm not sure to read it properly. You say in a previous post that B787 in included in the rating for B777 but in the document, there are two different boxes B777 and B787? Doesn't it mean they are different ratings?

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Some friends (Major airline) are type-rated for the whole 777 fleet. 772/ER/LR & 773/ER. It involves a few days of ground and sim training, that's it!

Cross-qualification is now something common for both Airbus and Boeing aircrafts.

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Kyle: I hope our French friends don't get too upset when they see that Concorde is listed under British Aerospace Corporation!

 

:P Arf, it is only half wrong! And it would only matter if the Concorde still flew... :(

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You say in a previous post that B787 in included in the rating for B777 but in the document, there are two different boxes B777 and B787? Doesn't it mean they are different ratings?

 

If you have a look at the second link I posted, the FAA clears it up...kind of...welcome to my life  :lol:

They're separate, but you can easily get it tacked on through differences training only.  You don't have to go through the whole type procedure.  Why is it not more straightforward? #FAA

 

 

 


Kyle: I hope our French friends don't get too upset when they see that Concorde is listed under British Aerospace Corporation!

 

Didn't even notice that!  Good catch.  I'd say I'm surprised it's still in the list, but let's be honest...it's the FAA.  I'm pretty sure we still have performance data in the controller reference book for aircraft that haven't flown in half a century...

(A little hyperbole, but probably not by much!)

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If you have a look at the second link I posted, the FAA clears it up...kind of...welcome to my life   :lol:

 

Ok, I forgot to have a look at the second link, sorry!

Thanks for explanation.

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Didn't even notice that!  Good catch.  I'd say I'm surprised it's still in the list, but let's be honest...it's the FAA.  I'm pretty sure we still have performance data in the controller reference book for aircraft that haven't flown in half a century...

It's a great list as it includes Lockheed Constellation and many other interesting aircraft long forgotten. If too many people read the list PMDG will be inundated with even more unusual requests! Thanks for posting it Kyle. 

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A friend of mine who trains pilots for BA informed me that pilots who transitioned from the 777-200/ER to the 300ER had to undergo differences training particularly focusing on ground manoeuvring due to the 300ER's increased length.

 

There are some small systems differences too.

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