Will a GeForce GTX 760 run well with the PMDG 777-300ER

[Kattz 132]

Dario, you are correct.  My (indirect, I was in a hurry) point was that he could pretty much get any CPU he desired for around $200 or less.  I appreciate you pointing out that the performance boost of the i7-4770K would be minimal.  In most places I peruse, one would think the 4770 was the holy grail...

 

Best,

 

Kevin

[Aaqib_Afzal 2]

I'm running an i7 4770k at stock 3.5Ghz with no over clocking at all along side MSI GTX 760 2GB and get an average of 41FPS from within the VC of both the NGX and 777, at high density situation with lot of cloud draw fps drops to somewhere around35-38 which is hardly noticeable for me. I run several add-ons ASN, REX4 Textures, FTX Global so you should be good, PC is still new though less than a month

[megatransat 2]

Will I still get as much FPS as you Aaqib_Afzal if I have a GTX 760 2 GB but have a i5 3570K that runs at 3.4GHZ with all the addons you have?

[outofphaze 4]

I'm not sure what some people here are on about, but your cpu is just fine. 

 

I just over clocked one of my friends system with the exact same cpu as you have to 4.3GHz quite simply, even though he only had a $25 cooler master 212 eve air cooler. 

 

My point is, you can get the most gain by just buying a cooler, like the earlier suggested H80i, if it fits in your tower, and then over clock. Make sure you take the time and educate your self. If you are afraid of lifespan reduction, go for a moderate clock like 4.3 to 4.5 ghz. and most importantly, educate your self about max and recommended max voltages for the 3570k. 

 

From your profile it seems you have an AMD video card? For FSX you will see the best performance when you combine an intel cpu with an Nvidia graphics card, so upgrading for you will be beneficial. 

 

If you are planning to ever go P3D or Xplane in the future, I would recommend a GTX 770 4GB, or better, budget permitting. If you want to stick with FSX, the GTX 760 is a very good choice!

 

PS, before buying a cooler, make sure you can over clock on your motherboard. Otherwise it could be a disappointing surprise if you find out after you purchase a cooler.

[wanabflyer 53]

Just FYI - I see no appreciable difference in FSX between my old 570 and my new 6GB 780. Spend your money on the CPU and a good overclocking motherboard and cooler if FSX is all you care about. CPU is the single biggest thing for performance in FSX.

But Ryan, would you have done much better if you had kept your 570 and gone for an overclocked 4770k?

 

I recently went for more VRAM and a 770 coupled with my existing 3570k and my overall performance including FPS was significant.

 

Your CPU doesn't exactly do a 6GB GTX 780 much justice.

 

Regards,

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[zmak 331]

You dont need a water cooler! unless your going super extreme, its a lot of hassle and expense.

 

I live in Bangkok Thailand and its hot and I dont use the air con all the time and still I have a 2500k clocked to 4.5 ghz using a coolmaster $50 fan (and 560TI card)

 

I have no temp issues and neither should you as long as your case is very well ventillated

 

Learn to OC its not that scary and its actually good fun :-)

[Aaqib_Afzal 2]

Will I still get as much FPS as you Aaqib_Afzal if I have a GTX 760 2 GB but have a i5 3570K that runs at 3.4GHZ with all the addons you have?

 

It depends, I cant say for certain because each system behaves different, but you should definitely be able to achieve good FPS with the GTX 760 im certain of that..incase you plan on overclocking your CPU consider a good cooling system

[777simmer 117]

For FSX the best hardware is always prefered.

 

If money is not an obstacle you simply get the i7 4770k (or that future version that should be out this month I think) and a a GTX780.

Period.

 

Anytime you start choosing lesser equipment you stand a chance that performance suffers.

period.

 

But we all dont have unlimited money, and you already have a PC!

 

I would not expect a huge improvemt to what you are seeing now regardless of what GPU you buy.

Unless you current CPU and AMD combo gives you less than 15fps with the PMDG777 at default KJFK scenery for example.

 

So with that in mind....it might not be wise to invest more into your current PC.

 

I get 18fps (only) at default kJFK take off with an overclocked 4.4GHz i7 3770k and a GTX680.

Same thing for some guys with an i7 4770k and a GRX780 I hear.

 

So the question is.....what performance do you have now?

Fps?

stutter...yes/no?

blurries....yes/no?

 

From the answere to that we can then judge if you can expect an improvement or not!

 

 

If you do want to buy a better GPU for your current PC then go for the GTX770!

(GTX780 is overkill.....waste of money fo your system.....but GTX760 is quite a step down from the GTX770!)

[Kattz 132]

You can see my system specs in my profile.  My framerate with the T7 has never ran below 27.  If I remember correctly, FSX cannot use SLI, even with DX10, so FSX runs on my 3rd GTX760 with EVGA factory OC's.  FSX config is set to GTX760.05 for that card, which occupies a slower slot on the mobo. 

 

I ran FSX with an FDS CDU, a CP Flight EFIS and MCP, and my framerates on the NGX never ran below 30 regardless of which airport/traffic add-ons.  I even get 30 fps at a FB add-on airport with GSX running, ASN, REX, EFB, PFPX, etc running.

 

Throughput on the mobo via SSD use with fast memory and a solid OC will return the best results for FSX.

[777simmer 117]

You can see my system specs in my profile.  My framerate with the T7 has never ran below 27.  If I remember correctly, FSX cannot use SLI, even with DX10, so FSX runs on my 3rd GTX760 with EVGA factory OC's.  FSX config is set to GTX760.05 for that card, which occupies a slower slot on the mobo. 

 

I ran FSX with an FDS CDU, a CP Flight EFIS and MCP, and my framerates on the NGX never ran below 30 regardless of which airport/traffic add-ons.  I even get 30 fps at a FB add-on airport with GSX running, ASN, REX, EFB, PFPX, etc running.

 

Throughput on the mobo via SSD use with fast memory and a solid OC will return the best results for FSX.

You have 3 GPUs installed?

Or do you mean it is a 3rd generation GPU?

 

the GPU really should be in a x16 slot for best performance.

I am amazed you get such good performance with that.

Cant believe it actually.

 

Do you have FSX at unlimited frame rates or locked at 30fps like I have it?

 

And, do you also use Nvidia Inspector AA filtering (things look better (less shimmers) but it costs fps)?

Just FYI - I see no appreciable difference in FSX between my old 570 and my new 6GB 780. Spend your money on the CPU and a good overclocking motherboard and cooler if FSX is all you care about. CPU is the single biggest thing for performance in FSX.

Hi Ryan.

 

Do you use Nvidia Inspector AA settings?

Because I think that's where the perfomance benefit of the better GPU really kicks in.

 

I agree though that CPU power is king for FSX.

But Ryan, would you have done much better if you had kept your 570 and gone for an overclocked 4770k?

I recently went for more VRAM and a 770 coupled with my existing 3570k and my overall performance including FPS was significant.

Your CPU doesn't exactly do a 6GB GTX 780 much justice.

Regards,

I agree with that!

 

GPU and CPU need to be balanced otherwise one will bottleneck the other.

That is why I suggested the OP should get a GTX770 for his i5.

 

It is a while back and on FS2004.....but I once changed a 9800GT for a GTX460....the frame rate increase was significant (like 30% more!).

[dazz 69]

GPU and CPU need to be balanced otherwise one will bottleneck the other.

That is why I suggested the OP should get a GTX770 for his i5

 

There really isn't that much of a difference between an I7 4770K and an I5 3570K that you'll need a faster GPU for the I7. Actually it's not about I7 vs I5, the I7 is a 10% faster because it's Haswell vs Ivy Bridge. If it was I5 4670K vs I7 3770K, the I5 would be (a little) faster.

 

At low AA settings like 8xS it doesn't really matter if you run a 760, a 770 or a Titan, paired with a 5GHz I7 4790K or a Dual core Pentium, you're going to be CPU limited either way.

 

Once you start adding SGSS, the strain on the GPU increases geometrically, and a 770 is just a 15 - 20% faster than a 760 so it's not going to make that much of a difference really.

 

The CPU - GPU balance mantra does not apply to FSX as it does to modern GPU limited games that make good use of the CPU too

 

 

You have 3 GPUs installed?

Or do you mean it is a 3rd generation GPU?

 

the GPU really should be in a x16 slot for best performance.

 

Agreed, in particular because that motherboard doesn't support PCIe 3.0.

It's still not going to be a huge performance hit. At PCIe 2.0 8x you're looking at a 10 - 15% FPS drop vs 16x in FSX

[77west 139]

I still reckon the new 4790K will be a big jump for FSX, 4GHZ stock with 4.4 turbo, and up to 5 on air cooling!

[dazz 69]

I still reckon the new 4790K will be a big jump for FSX, 4GHZ stock with 4.4 turbo, and up to 5 on air cooling!

 

It's a 4770K with better thermal interface (the I5 4690K too) and higher stock clocks.

For those who don't overclock, an extra 500MHz.

For those who do (and won't delid), the improved HIS thermal interface should help achieve maybe 200 - 400MHz more. Most won't do 5GHz, 4.7 - 4.8GHz is more realistic.

 

It's an improvement, but hardly a game changer

[77west 139]

It's a 4770K with better thermal interface (the I5 4690K too) and higher stock clocks.

For those who don't overclock, an extra 500MHz.

For those who do (and won't delid), the improved HIS thermal interface should help achieve maybe 200 - 400MHz more. Most won't do 5GHz, 4.7 - 4.8GHz is more realistic.

 

It's an improvement, but hardly a game changer

I didn't say "game changer" in my post. I know exactly what it is given that I have two engineering samples in my office right now (my company is a specialist OEM). BUT for those of use who do not overclock much, going from a 3.4-3.6 stock CPU to a 4.0 with 4.4 turbo, is a decent jump. And with 5 (real world, 4.6.4.8) on air, that a lot better than the usual 200Mhz increments that Intel foists on us. And certainly better than a new GPU for most people.