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Does anyone know of a list of airports that are outdated in default FSX?

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I'm talking about missing runways, or just missing airports at all.

 

Does anyone have a list?

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I would hazrd a guess as to all of them for varying reasons. not least to mag variation, additional work, incorrect location and so goes the list, did i forget teh missing ones, lots of backwater airfields dont exist in fsx.

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I've seen very few that have any changes, but I typically avoid the largest airports.  My home field, F00, has been built up quite a bit and the runway extended.  I was able to edit that easily enough.  A lot of small airports simply aren't complete with all the buildings.

 

The biggest problem I've seen is that ICAO designators have changed on a considerable number of airports.

 

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On Vancouver Island FSX has at least two airports that no longer exist in the real world. One of them didn't even exist when FS2002 was released!

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Vienna airport has received a new terminal building in the last few years, which is not present in default FSX. 

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Well if we're starting that list.... Here's what I can add:

 

 

  • Chicago O'hare (KORD) is missing a new runway.
  • Cleveland, Ohio (KCLT) has a runway that was removed.
  • Washington DC (KIAD) is missing a runway
  • Boston (KBOS) is missing a new runway.
  • Minneapolis (KMSP) is missing a new runway.
  • Indianapolis (KIND) is missing a runway.
  • Seattle (KSEA) is missing a new runway.
  • Memphis (KMEM) is missing a new runway.
  • Tampa (KTPA) is missing a new runway.
  • Kansai (RJBB) is missing a new runway.
  • Toronto (CYYZ) is missing a new runway.
  • Frankfurt (EDDF) is missing a new runway.
  • Bristol (EGGD) is missing a new runway.
  • Albuquerque (KABQ) is missing a new runway.
  • Test range (KTNX) is missing a new runway.
  • Manchester (EGCC) is missing a new runway.
  • Vienna (LOWW) is missing a new runway.

That's all I can think of right now.

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Chicago O'Hare has quite a few missing runways now.

I avoid O'Hare like the plague. My only no-fly zone in FSX. It's just too much of a headache. Having the wrong heading or frequency is one thing, but O'Hare is problem after problem. You have to be a cartographer just to figure out what runway to land at.

 

Oddly enough, no payware company has touched it either, perhaps due to the constant changes there and inevitable headache.

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KGYY 30/12 has been extended 2,300', new terminal (which remains largely unused, Boeing Hanger at NW corner near 12, new ANG facilities SW of 12, new FBO, et cetera.

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Vienna (LOWW) is missing a new runway.

A terminal is missing at Vienna - the two runways existing in FSX (11-29 and 16-34) have been there as long as I can remember, and I guess a lot longer. But there are indeed plans to build an additional runway (most likely designated 11R-29L), but that's currently only plans and a long time till they may even start building (if ever).

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ZSPD, new runways and new terminal.

ZBAA, new runways and new terminal.

ZUUU, new runways and new terminal.

ZUCK, new runways and new terminal.

ZPPP, new airport built.

...

The list is very long.

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A terminal is missing at Vienna

I understand, but I don't think terminals are that important as a missing runway or even worse, a missing airport.

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I understand, but I don't think terminals are that important as a missing runway or even worse, a missing airport.

I totally understand your point, Diego, it doesn't really matter, not even with the (possibly, don't recall) smaller default apron there. What I wanted to point out was simply the fact that your statement of LOWW missing a runway is not true, that basic layout has not been changed, and I doubt it will in the next few years.

Should have read your original post more careully, though. I could have avoided our misunderstanding by that :blush:

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I'm sure that just about all of them are out of date.  They're based on very old info, and even if runways haven't been added or removed you can bet many of the runway numbers have changed, NAVAIDs around the airport, and fixes too.

 

Best to search for airport updates here on AVSIM, but use Google too because there are other sources for updated AFCADs and Scenery.

 

FYI:  You're question has been asked several times this year alone, so you might also consider searching the forums (Google will get you there as well).  I know that I've posted replies to this question and provided additional information in those replies.

 

Take care.

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I've seen very few that have any changes, but I typically avoid the largest airports.  My home field, F00, has been built up quite a bit and the runway extended.  I was able to edit that easily enough.  A lot of small airports simply aren't complete with all the buildings.

 

Hook

 

How easy is that to do? I've never touched ADE (is it?) could someone with little programming experience add buildings and stuff to an airfield??  Cheers.

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Adding buildings and stuff to an airfield is easy; adding exact models of the buildings and stuff is a great deal more time consuming.

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Best to search for airport updates here on AVSIM, but use Google too because there are other sources for updated AFCADs and Scenery.

 

I agree. I do this before I fly anywhere, but it gets tedious. I wish someone would compile all AFCADs that actually fix the broken scenery into one package.

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How easy is that to do?

 

Let's just say that the first one is always the hardest.  :) 

 

Putting down a new hangar is easy enough.  Getting the hanger in exactly the right place, at the right size, and adding aprons and taxiways, then finding out that the original version of the airport you're working with only superficially resembles the real thing and having to basically start again from scratch... that's less easy.  I spent a lot of time in Google Earth measuring stuff, then transferring it to the editor.

 

It's probably harder than you want to do, but you won't know it until you're deep enough into the project that you want to keep going anyway.  Don't let that stop you.  :)  It started with a single water tower and ended up being most of the airport, and I'm glad I did it.

 

Hook

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I agree. I do this before I fly anywhere, but it gets tedious. I wish someone would compile all AFCADs that actually fix the broken scenery into one package.

That seems like an impossible task, considering the fact that almost every single default airport in FSX is outdated, inaccurate and lacking

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SEQU- closed!

Wow, I didn't know that it closed. That was a great approach.

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Yeah I tried to plan a flight using flightaware. No bueno! I guess it closed and they reopened a safer airport.

 

Sad. I cut my teeth on that approach with the default 747 back in the day. I didn't know anything back then!

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I avoid O'Hare like the plague. My only no-fly zone in FSX. It's just too much of a headache. Having the wrong heading or frequency is one thing, but O'Hare is problem after problem. You have to be a cartographer just to figure out what runway to land at.

 

Oddly enough, no payware company has touched it either, perhaps due to the constant changes there and inevitable headache.

FSDT has done it, then offered a free update to include one of the new runways, but then they added another runway so the FSDT version is once again missing one. FSDT has said they will update it again at some point in the future. Tough airport to keep up to date.

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