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Brief workflow tutorial: PMDG 777 SP1 Company Datalink function with PFPX + Active Sky Next (ASN)

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This is a quick tutorial on how to setup and use PMDG 777 SP1 Datalink function in conjunction with PFPX and ASN in an integrated and automated workflow.

 

This is simply a suggested workflow that I use, I don't claim that this is the only or the most proper workflow for integration between those applications. Hopefully you find it useful and can customize it based on your own personal preferences.

 

Initial Configuration

  1. In ASN select Auto load simulator flight plan, we will use this feature later in the process.

    ASNConfig.png?psid=1
  2. In FSX, load PMDG 777 SP1 and make sure the following options are selected:

    MENU > PMDG SETUP > AIRCRAFT > EQUIPMENT on pages 12 & 13:

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MENU > PMDG SETUP > OPTIONS > SIMULATION:

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For FSX PLN FILE FOR WXR option: Choose CREATE AND LOAD TO FSX

 

The worflow steps

  1. Assuming you have no active PFPX weather subscription or if you prefer to use ASN weather in PFPX, open ASN and choose WX Configuration > Save Weather File. That saves a global weather file that PFPX can use in the next step for proper route and fuel planning.
     ASNSaved.png?psid=1
     
  2. Open PFPX, make sure it uses ASN weather (not its own weather subscription). Create the flight plan in PFPX as usual, it only needs to be exported in one format: PMDG route format

    PFPXExport.png?psid=1

The above action creates a flight plan in PMDG format (.rte) and places is it in [FSX]\PMDG\FLIGHTPLANS. In this case it will be [FSX]\PMDG\FLIGHTPLANS\CYVRPHNL01.rte

 

3.   In FSX, inside PMDG 777 SP1 use the RTE > REQUEST ROUTE feature to load, accept and activate the flight plan we created in step 2 (e.g. [FSX]\PMDG\FLIGHTPLANS\CYVRPHNL01.rte). Now everything that PMDG 777 SP1 requires for different weather uplink connectivity is done.
 

You only need to read on, if you'd like to know how all that magic between PFPX, PMDG 777 SP1 and ASN happened.
By loading the flight plan in PMDG 777 SP1 FMS, there are a few things that happened behind the scene, courtesy of the new features in SP1 and integration to ASN:

  1. When PMDG 777 SP1 loads the .rte flight plan created by PFPX, it automatically creates and loads a flight plan in FSX format (.pln) to FSX. This is based on the options that we selected in step 3 above. The location for this file is [username]\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\WX.PLN
  2. Step 'a', in turn, triggers ASN to load the flight plan automatically. This happens because of the option we selected in step 1 in ASN.
  3. Step 'b', in turn triggers creation of a weather file by ASN, that weather file is the file that PMDG 777 SP1 requires for the weather portion of datalink functionality, ASN will create that file in [FSX]\PMDG\WX\xxxxyyyy.wx

Everything we did above is to get the following weather file (auto) generated for PMDG 777 SP1: [FSX]\PMDG\WX\xxxxyyyy.wx  

For all weather related uplinks in PMDG 777 SP1 to work, it requires a WX file in [FSX]\PMDG\WX folder, the filename is xxxxyyyy.wx where xxxx is ICAO code for Origin and yyyy is the ICAO code for Destination.

 

Regards,

JohnJ

 

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JohnJ, curious to know if the above for you allows ASN to inject the current live weather into FSX as the flight progresses? What I am seeing is it is not. Nothing can be done on this side as it looks to be an ASN issue. When you go to 122.02 and listen to the ATIS for your destination say a few hours after your flight begins, does the timestamp for the ATIS match up to the current Zulu time?

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This new datalink function only works with PFPX and ASN only, right?

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JohnJ, curious to know if the above for you allows ASN to inject the current live weather into FSX as the flight progresses? What I am seeing is it is not. Nothing can be done on this side as it looks to be an ASN issue. When you go to 122.02 and listen to the ATIS for your destination say a few hours after your flight begins, does the timestamp for the ATIS match up to the current Zulu time?

 Eric,

 

ASN should be injecting LIVE WEATHER anyway regardless of data uplink or not. I thought this was the whole purpose of LIVE WEATHER MODE in ASN

Even before Sp1 , if you have ASN running it should be injecting live weather in FSX regardless of what plane you are flying. So I am pretty sure if you are having this problem this must be your ASN.

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Date link works with any program that can generate a WX file for PMDG aircrafts and puts in [FSX]\PMDG\WX folder.

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This new datalink function only works with PFPX and ASN only, right?

 Not really. 

You can export PMDG route file (.rte) from any source you want. (Simbrief for example) and your data uplink should work.  Not sure about how accurate your weather will be if you are not using any weather engine.

 

On another forum I read OPUS FSX works just fine with SP1 and weather radar so does the default FSX weather

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Just the topic i was looking for john . thank you very much . one question if im flying a long haul (lets say 10 hours ) and later in the flight i would like to request DES forecast uplink (approx. after i first created the flight plan by 7 hours ) will it load from the weather file PFPX created 7 hours ago , or will it be a new one which has newer wind data from ASN ?

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Not really.

You can export PMDG route file (.rte) from any source you want. (Simbrief for example) and your data uplink should work.

 

Great, can I load the .rte file created/saved by PMDG's FMC?  Why do you say export instead of import?

 

 

 


On another forum I read OPUS FSX works just fine with SP1 and weather radar so does the default FSX weather

 

Please point me to this thread or how to export/merge the default FSX weather with PMDG's .rte file.

 

Thanks, Harry

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The thing about using ASN is that you can keep requesting winds data and its continually being updated. Before SP1, the data from the wx file was static because the file was locked and couldnt be updated. I think ASN is a must because PMDG is calling apis from from it. Dont think Opus or any other weather program will work

 

Pierre W

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What is apis?

API is the application programming interface. Its the libraries that are exposed so anyone can write code to get data from ASN. Its similar to the pmdg SDK

 

Pierre W

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API is the application programming interface. Its the libraries that are exposed so anyone can write code to get data from ASN. Its similar to the pmdg SDK

 

Pierre W

Thank you.

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Based on my tests, it seems every time you request weather related data either for the route or DES forecast, you get updated data from ASN. so if ASN is running, your DES forecast won't be 7 hours old, based on the original weather data you got pre-departure.

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Based on my tests, it seems every time you request weather related data either for the route or DES forecast, you get updated data from ASN. so if ASN is running, your DES forecast won't be 7 hours old, based on the original weather data you got pre-departure.

That is exactly what is happening and why this feature is so cool

 

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Not sure how people are getting this function so messed up...it's rather simple if you actually sit down and pay attention to it.

 

Think back to your installation...

Did you tell the installer where PFPX was?  What about ASN?  Did you tell it you don't have PFPX and use RoutePlanningToolY?

 

Nope.

 

Why?

 

It would be incredibly labor intensive (and very restrictive) to program one system to behave specifically with a whole bunch of others.  Instead, a developer usually creates some type of folder, or format that it can accept.  An example of this has been the PMDG RTE format.  Any route planning tool out there usually has a way to export in this format.  That way, PMDG doesn't restrict who can and can't provide the files.

 

Same thing here.  You can get RTE files from the same sources you could get route files a year ago...two years ago...heck, a decade ago.  The only difference is that the route request process has become a little more realistic (and you don't have to remember COROUTE names to enter by hand).

 

Weather Datalink?  Same thing.

 

The WX file is still where it gets its information.  Sure, ASN was the first one to implement the feature into their program so that there is no required human interaction, but any program can create a WX file.  Heck, you could make one yourself, too.

 

PMDG told the 777 to pay attention to two places:

1 - The routes (flightplans) folder.

2 - The weather (WX) folder.

[Perf data comes from the FMC itself...how?...you set it on the FS ACTIONS pages, so why would it need to ask another program what the data is?]

 

 

 

The only dependence between a PMDG aircraft for ANYTHING is the weather radar (ASN - currently), and that - is - it.

 

Please excuse the fire and brimstone, but I keep seeing this come up, and the answers are usually pretty far from accurate.

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Based on my tests, it seems every time you request weather related data either for the route or DES forecast, you get updated data from ASN. so if ASN is running, your DES forecast won't be 7 hours old, based on the original weather data you got pre-departure.

Thank you. I'll try it today

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Can I just turn this option off, generate new wx file via simbrief and load it in aircraft via datalink? Do not want ASN to supply my aircraft with the winds.

Additionally, where is descend forecast wind data contained? Cannot find it in wx file.

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Nice explanation....I cannot see the pictures (lllustrated above)....

 

 

Thanks Again,

Regis

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Additionally, where is descend forecast wind data contained? Cannot find it in wx file.

 

If you're looking for a separate line or section for the DES FORECAST, you're not going to find it.  It just pulls the wind information from the existing waypoints.

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If you're looking for a separate line or section for the DES FORECAST, you're not going to find it.  It just pulls the wind information from the existing waypoints.

So the 777 FMC can build descend forecast data from wx file provided by simbrief?

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So the 777 FMC can build descend forecast data from wx file provided by simbrief?

 

A WX file is a WX file is a WX file...

 

If it'll import it for the basic cruise stuff, it'll be able to process it for the DES FORECAST.

 

People are really over-thinking all of these new features...

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Hi All

 

OPUS weather can now read the new T7 wx.pln file

 

OpusFSX Beta Version 3.49.8

 

Upgraded PLN flight plan decoding to allow departure and destination to be specified outside the usual listed waypoints making it compatible with PMDG 777 generated PLN files

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I have one short question:

 

When you do this as John described will ASN show you your flight plan? Quick yes/no will.

 

Thanks!

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