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You should be able to set up the Airport Folder ATC Chatter mode in P2A and then in place your RealATC type folders/files in the Country folder.  Then, when not on an Airport frequency that you have a folder for, the generic files from the Country folder will play.

Dave

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1 hour ago, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

You should be able to set up the Airport Folder ATC Chatter mode in P2A and then in place your RealATC type folders/files in the Country folder.  Then, when not on an Airport frequency that you have a folder for, the generic files from the Country folder will play.

Dave

Awesome! Thanks Dave.. I thought that would be the case based on the user guide, but wanted to confirm. Thank you - keep up the awesome work - P2A is far and away the most useful addition to my virtual flying universe. I bought it when I was on P3D, and it's made the move over to XP with me. 

 

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Looked a while for this answer but couldn't seem to find it.  Can I set up a structure under the airport folder for different types of controllers?  For example,

Sounds - ATC_Chatter - US - K2 - KSLC - App/Clr/Ctr/etc...

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You can only have the folders as described in the User's Guide.  At an Airport, that would be Clr, Gnd, Twr, App, Dep. 

Then you should have a Ctr at the country level, along with the other 5 so you will get chatter even at airports that do not have their own folder. 

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Update for anyone interested - realatc.net seems to be abandoned. I paid for the files over a week ago, and after never receiving anything, attempted to contact the seller via three different email addresses without success. I ultimately had to file a claim on Paypal for a refund, as the author has not responded to paypal's inquiry about my claim, either. Save your $10 if you're considering these..

 

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I should have read this thread before purchasing the RealATC.net files. Yes, same situation I am in now. The site is abandoned and Ralph is not answering to emails unfortunately. 

Any other source for these files? Can someone that has them, share them for a small price perhaps? 

Where can I download similar files? 

 

Cheers,

e.

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14 hours ago, Kiwi0ne said:

I should have read this thread before purchasing the RealATC.net files. Yes, same situation I am in now. The site is abandoned and Ralph is not answering to emails unfortunately. 

Any other source for these files? Can someone that has them, share them for a small price perhaps? 

Where can I download similar files? 

 

Cheers,

e.

File a PayPal claim. Eventually they'll get enough claims to suspend the account so at least nobody else will be able to pay for them..

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I am not aware of any sources for edited files like these.  It's a real shame they are no longer available.

You can get unedited ATC files at LiveATC.net.  They are long and unedited, but work fine.  Normally when using these, you would use the "Designated File" option in Pilot2ATC Chatter, but if you put several files in the folder for each controller type, it could work for the "Controllers'' option.

Dave

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Luckily I got mine before RealATC went incognito. I was going to start recording some from LiveATC and editing out the ones that had audio that was airport specific with the thought that we could start collecting them and sharing them. However, I think they are copyrighted as best I can tell. Maybe that might have been the problem RealTAC, if he was getting them from LiveATC possibly he was getting concerned about the copyright. Maybe I'm reading things wrong.

Mark

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11 hours ago, markcellis said:

Luckily I got mine before RealATC went incognito. I was going to start recording some from LiveATC and editing out the ones that had audio that was airport specific with the thought that we could start collecting them and sharing them. However, I think they are copyrighted as best I can tell. Maybe that might have been the problem RealTAC, if he was getting them from LiveATC possibly he was getting concerned about the copyright. Maybe I'm reading things wrong.

Mark

I've started doing exactly the same - agree unsure about the copyright issues, so I don't think it's a good idea to set up any sort of sharing community... That said, it's so easy to do, I've already forgotten about the realatc stuff... Get a copy of Audacity (windows freeware). Download archive(s) of your choice from liveatc.net .  Load the file in to Audacity and use the "detect sound" (or something similar - not in front of it right now) from the tools menu (near the bottom, close to 'detect silence'. That will "mark" the start and end of each part of the file where there is actually sound. Then, from the file menu, choose "export multiple" and follow the prompts - you end up with individual files containing just the spoken parts - all automatically. 

 

I'm sure the realatc files were better... You do get some duds doing this, like periods of static or difficult to understand comms, etc...I look at them as added realism :)  But, in under 2-hours one evening, I have almost 1000 files already, across all controller types, and working great with P2A.

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Wow...amazing tip!  I'm going to start doing this myself tonight.  I too was a victim of the $10 to the wind a couple weeks back.

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Maybe I'll reach out to the LiveATC guys and see if there is some kind of a licensing agreement that can be worked out with them.

 

Mark

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Great tip! That'd be awesome Mark! 

Does anybody care to share the chatter files by any chance? 

 

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Unless you get these things off your own receiver directly many of the sources are copyrighted. I'm trying to work a deal with LiveATC for a licensing arrangement that might allow me to recreate a product similar to RealATC for a similar price. I should know in one or two weeks how feasible this is. If someone does find a free source of these ATC files then we could establish a free sharing mechanism but I haven't found any yet.

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Hi Dave,

just a feature request for a future update:

Maybe it would be possible to play the ATC chatter files randomly from the ATC chatter folders?

Sometimes it is boring to hear the same ATC chatter sound twice.

Other things work perfect! Thank you.

Best regards,

Markus

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Marcus,

The files are played in sequence out of the folders.  If you have 100 files in a folder, the first time you select that controller, you might get files 1 through 15.  The next time you select that controller, you should get 16 through xxx.  By the time you get to 100, you're supposed to have forgotten file 1.

If the files were played randomly, there's a much better chance of getting the same file played multiple times while on a frequency with that controller.  Of course, the assumption is that with the Controllers option, you have a large number of files in each folder.

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What If pseudo code 

; variables 

FileToPlay=Array of Chars[5]; 

Int NumFilesInFolder

Using Integers,  FolderNums are:

Clearance=folder(0),DepGnd=folder(1),DepTower= folder(2),Departure=Folder(3),Tracon1=Folder(4),Tracon2=Folder(3),etc,etc,Arrival=Folder(n), ArrivTwr=Folder(n+1),ArrvalGnd=folder(n+2).

FileToPlay(0)=FolderNum;

FileToPlay(1)T or F to be assigned  name of “ABP” (Already been played) to be converted to Bool?;

FileToPlay(2-4) is int up to 999;if Len(FileToPlay(2-4)<3,pad with leading “0s” to equal 3 chars so we can use Abs(STR2NUM(Mid(FileToPlay(3,3)))) to extract proper file integer

 

Initialization

1. For each loop counting number of ATC folders=NumFolders 

A.For each loop through each NumFolder counting files=NumFilesInFolder

B..DO for each file in each folder assign in CHAR array( ABP, NumFolders,NumFilesInFolder);

1. ABP initially set to “F”

———-

Program Run( Pilot2ATC)

C. for next loop

Generate rnd(NumFilesInFolder)+1

1. Check for ABP(left(FileToPlay(1);

2. playing appropriate next ATC file;if NOT ABP ; after playing, set file ABP to “T”

a. Set above ABP  To “T” and PlayedFiles to PlayedFiles +1

b. If PlayedFiles(in each folder) == NumFiles-1, reset PlayedFiles to 0

check for folder(n) for proper ATC folder , go to right FolderNum, and do it all again

§§§§§§§§§§§

— E.G. 

1.check for appropriate ATC FOLDER

Example of FileToPlay(3T123)= Deptarture,“ABP” (Already been played-SKIP to file 124-

If 124’s ABP NOT “T” , play it and set ABP to “T”) 

loop

§§§§§§§§

 I know there are more than several errors AND typos in my logic, but I think you get the idea; which is: maximized random play from each ATC folder without repeating until all files in each ATC folder are played, then auto-looping infinitely.

 

Forgive my old fart faulty coding memory

If it makes no sense, then as Emily Litella and APG Fak Checker, Dingus said, 

“Neverminnnnd!”

Chas

 

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On 8/12/2017 at 10:49 AM, Dave-Pilot2ATC said:

Marcus,

The files are played in sequence out of the folders.  If you have 100 files in a folder, the first time you select that controller, you might get files 1 through 15.  The next time you select that controller, you should get 16 through xxx.  By the time you get to 100, you're supposed to have forgotten file 1.

If the files were played randomly, there's a much better chance of getting the same file played multiple times while on a frequency with that controller.  Of course, the assumption is that with the Controllers option, you have a large number of files in each folder.

Dave,

Just to add to this older thread, while we are working on the clips for X-ATC-Chatter we are counting on them being played in order so that a you will hear calls to the same aircraft in order. As an example you might hear multiple taxi instructions for United 6626 then a hand-off to tower. If it was random you would miss that.

One thing I did think of is with the files we are doing they are all pretty short, one exchange between the pilot and ATC. Some of the clearance exchanges can get long but the others are short. One option for Pilot2ATC might be the ability to tell Pilot2ATC to NOT interrupt a chatter playback for calls to the pilot. Not a big deal but might be nice for the future at some point.

 

Mark

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