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RockOla

A 670 vs 970 comparison. Brace yourself, spectacular results

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Hi all

 

Based on early benchmarks, power consumption & noise reports, I decided to upgrade my good not-so-old 670 for a brand news MSI 970 Gaming.

 

I now flightsim for more than 15 years, and I can say this is the first time an hardware upgrade satisfies me this way.

 

I took the opportunity to switch my GPU (all my other hardware remaining the same) to show you the FPS boost in 3 different situations.

 

Conditions :

 

- nvinspector with only sparse grid multisample x8

- no other background app running appart Speedfan

- each picture take without AA and with 8x AA set in P3D (so 8SGSAA with nv inspector transparency multisampling)

 

Results

 

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Quick conclusions

 

- not a huge difference when cavok or clear conditions

- significant difference when cloudy / overcast

- huge boost when AA enabled, especially under demanding conditions (traffic / clouds / urban area)

 

And I did not mention the temperature never reaching 70°C (158°F) in a ITX case (Node 304), the fan only starting spinning past 60°C (140°F), and remaining near-silent even at max t°.

 

Images being worth a thousand words, here are the results.

 

670 without AA

671.jpg

 

970 without AA

971.jpg

 

670 with AA

671aa.jpg

 

970 with AA

971aa.jpg

 

670 without AA

672.jpg

 

970 without AA

972.jpg

 

670 with AA

672aa.jpg

 

970 with AA

972aa.jpg

 

670 without AA

673.jpg

 

970 without AA

973.jpg

 

670 with AA

673aa.jpg

 

970 with AA

973aa.jpg

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Why are you setting 8xSGSAA ?

 

Thats just a massive overkill

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Just to stress the GPU and show how beefy the 970 is. Never under 40 FPS with 8xSGSAA ensures 50FPS+ with 4xSGSAA in most of the cases.

 

But let's forget 2x, 4x, 8x etc. These new Maxwell GTX are simply very promising and more than well performing with P3D 2.3

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Excellent results! I planned on getting a 970 at launch but I'm going to wait for the holiday bundles that come packed with some game codes that I usually sell online after purchase.

 

Though, with these results I might not be able to wait... ;)

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Thanks for posting these results, you must be very happy?... I'm seriously thinking about getting a 970 based on all I'm reading about them.


 


These cards seem to offer unrivalled bang for buck and some great overclocking potential to boot.


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Happy, yes, but not only for the raw figures. As a simmers point of view, this is the first time I can fly with both HQ AA and such smoothness. Forget tweaking your cfg, struggling with nv inspector settings. Over the past 2 hours, I just flew.

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Why are you setting 8xSGSAA ?

 

Thats just a massive overkill

 

 

Not for me it isn't 8xsgsaa makes FSX (p3d) look solid, you get literally no shimmering, its amazing. I think I'm going to get a 970.

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Thanks for posting this! It seems you are very happy with how this card is performing in P3D. I'm upgrading from a 680 to a 980 (won't arrive until 9/26) but I'm being very optimistic it will greatly improve my P3D experience. I plan to do a clean install of P3D once the new card is in so I can start fresh and not with my mucked up tampered and tweaked with version. :lol:

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Wonder what an upgrade from a 770 would be like?

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RockOla many thanks for your contribution but could I enquire what texture resolution you are running at eg. 1024, 2048, 4096 in Image & Texture Quality section of Options\Settings\Display\Graphics.

 

Very few members give this specification when testing/reviewing yet it is quite an important factor in assessing outcomes.

 

Many thanks.

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I have a 680, so I'm hoping to see a difference, who knows.

Please report your result once the card arrives.  Thanks

 

to OP, what resolution is your monitor set at?  And thanks for sharing.

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I too ponder what an upgrade from a GTX770 to a GTX970 would harvest

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lol I'm still on a GTX 570.... single mon 1920x1080 (well technically two monitors but FSX/P3D only runs on 1)

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Whelp that settles it.  I am going for it though I think I am going to go deep pockets and snag two 980's and SLI them up.  It will help in my other games and when P3D goes SLI I will probably die a happy pilot.

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lol I'm still on a GTX 570.... single mon 1920x1080 (well technically two monitors but FSX/P3D only runs on 1)

 

Same and I have a 970 on order.  I'm sure I'll be happy, then in a few months I'll get another and SLI it.

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Looks very good.  I have a 770/4 right now and considering an upgrade.

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Looks very good.  I have a 770/4 right now and considering an upgrade.

Same here. Hmmmm how to hide it from the wife :)

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Can you tell anything about what addons you use here? For instance do you use FTX Global? Active Sky? Loading default scenery is very hard on the gpu.

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Well, lots of comments and questions !  :o  :P

 

Wonder what an upgrade from a 770 would be like?

Well according to the first benchmarks, and depending on the situations, you can expect an average +20 % boost.

 

Can you tell anything about what addons you use here? For instance do you use FTX Global? Active Sky? Loading default scenery is very hard on the gpu.

I'm not using FS Global at the moment, but FTX Sak (situation 1 & 3) and Jennasoft LFLL (situation 2). For the weather, indeed I'm a proud ASN customer.

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Well according to the first benchmarks, and depending on the situations, you can expect an average +20 % boost.

 

And this will be value for money? I my opinion it would be not!

I have a gtx 770, too. But instead buying a 970 now, I would wait until next year, when the 20nm architecture are released.

 

Imagine, what powerfull the video card will be, if the video card (bigger video card) will use about 250-300 Watt!!

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I had EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB before I got my GTX 780 3GB last spring and definitely the biggest handicap for my 670 was its 2GB of VRAM. As I use surround setup with over triple the normal FullHD resolution, I can very easily get my VRAM usage over 2GB. If usage is capped and more, GPU goes to hybrid mode utilizing system RAM through PCIE. This gives huge performance impact and something that could be easily observed in FPS numbers.

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I am curious about the performance difference between de 890 and 780 ( TI ) / Titan.

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I am curious about the performance difference between de 890 and 780 ( TI ) / Titan.

Maybe only the new DSR function would be an advantage?

Spirit

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Maybe only the new DSR function would be an advantage?

Spirit

You always return here. From

 

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=4921057

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiR4i viewpost.gif
Does this new DSR feature require that you play in fullscreen mode? Or does it allow you to play in some form of windowed mode?
that good question, I bet it dont work in windowed/ windowed full screen though.

 

I know as i know down sampling dont work right in windowed/windowed fullscreen I have to have my desktop at same res or my desktop res gets changed anyway.

 

This would indeed be great if this work in windows/windowed fullscreen with out actual need to use change desktop resolution

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