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My experience has been very positive.  It's impossible to eliminate very shimmer on my system, just like it was for every stutter.  However the difference between before and after is amazing, I just have to return to windowed mode to see the difference.  It may be euphoria or the beers as per the instructions, but everything seemed that much smoother.  The only spots of trouble I have are:

 

1) I could not get vsync to work through control panel, so I did all the NV settings through inspector.  I imagine the latter will get an update at some point to add DSR;

2) I've a 2GB GTX680, and most of that 2GB gets used.  Not sure what happens if that went over the edge.

 

This has really brought me back into the game at a time when everything was becoming rather old.  Thinking back, it's a game changer just like 1/2 refresh rate and the 8800GT were before it.  Using the word game in the broadest sense here, it's a simulator!  Already I have tweaking withdrawl.

 

Simon

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Hi Rick,

 

From what I've been reading, DSR should work for surround users. Remember to set the DSR factor and smoothness in the Control Panel first then make sure you select the "new" resolution in game before going into full screen mode.

 

Mike

 

Thanks Mike, I guess I will give it a go then.

 

Rick S

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I'm in DX10 and don't run AA or Vsync at all in order to up the fps.  I get terrible shimmer that I've gotten used to.  Will DSR still work for me?  I have a GTX560.

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when you guys mention "shimmer" is this the same thing as jaggies? Like non crisp edges?

 

Also has anyone used this yet in FSX in dx9, seems all these posts are dx10 and I'm using FSX in dx9. 

 

Would the Nvidia Control Panel and in-sim settings be the same for FSX and p3d, assuming I don't use NI anymore.

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MikeAdamo, on 28 Oct 2014 - 9:20 PM, said:

 

Hi Rick,

From what I've been reading, DSR should work for surround users. Remember to set the DSR factor and smoothness in the Control Panel first then make sure you select the "new" resolution in game before going into full screen mode.

Mike

Thanks Mike, I guess I will give it a go then.

Rick S

 

Well, I guess DSR is not an option on a 3x Surround system, as I can not find it anywhere in the nVidia Control Panel?

 

Maybe I am looking in the wrong place; I hope?

 

Rick S

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I can't get p3d to look anything like this. I've followed the settings and instructions and it's not looking good at all. The aircraft looks great outside but the ground not so much.

 

The main issue I am having is my menus being distorted and blurred when I click on them, also pulsating. anyone know what's causing that?

 

Also lights seem to be "pulsating"

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I have GTX 560 and I see no shimmer at all with DSR.

 

But are you running form of AA at all, or is DSR doing everything for you?

This would be a game changer for me because I get amazing smoothness in FSX without AA in NI, and it looks like you guys are saying DSR has no fps impact.

 

 

when you guys mention "shimmer" is this the same thing as jaggies? Like non crisp edges?

 

Also has anyone used this yet in FSX in dx9, seems all these posts are dx10 and I'm using FSX in dx9. 

 

Would the Nvidia Control Panel and in-sim settings be the same for FSX and p3d, assuming I don't use NI anymore.

 

It's the "shimmering" effect you see when you have low to no AA.

When you're taxiing on the ground and you make a turn, you will see the jagged edges of buildings, fences, etc shimmering. 

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Hmmm, I've been testing this for a couple of days.

 

My specs/settings: GTX750 SC, i7 CPU, 6GB RAM,  DX10 with 4X SGSS at 1650pp and a stable FPS around 35-45.

 

It doesn't seem to do anything spectacular for me... I start seeing FPS impact at 2.0 DSR factor but that's it. In terms of scenery/object clarity, it seems identical to my original setup.

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you guys are saying DSR has no fps impact.

 

That would not be accurate sir! Cranking up to the maximum DSR setting is essentially equivalent to driving a 4K monitor, which would bring all but the most hardy GPU and processor to it's knees. There ain't know free lunch!

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That would not be accurate sir! Cranking up to the maximum DSR setting is essentially equivalent to driving a 4K monitor, which would bring all but the most hardy GPU and processor to it's knees. There ain't know free lunch!

 

Thanks.  Maybe I should stick to my current drivers.  Things are so smooth right now, I'm afraid to mess with it.

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That of course is your call. I don't like to upgrade drivers unless there's a good reason to either.

 

FWIW, I haven't noticed any regressions with this version in FSX (344.48 WHQL) and retained a couple of small DX10 related fixes from the last driver release. So, with DRS, I consider this driver version sort of the new 'baseline' for GeForce drivers. I don't use P3D at this time so I don't know what those guys think of this release.

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Thanks.  I may give it a try in the near future.  I can always disable DSR if it eats too much fps.  Plus, I'd like to try it out in FS9 as well.

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Yes - DSR is completely optional. There's really nothing you'd need to disable - just run your game at your screen native resolution AFAIK.

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It may be euphoria or the beers

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Yes, yes...the beer is very important...to relax you...and assure a good DSR transition....LOL!   Don't sic the F.A.A. on me...as I never mentioned about a beer in the cockpit....   :o

 

MItch

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I really cant see a difference... May be I am doing something wrong. Any way to still force 1/2 refresh rate?

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I really cant see a difference... May be I am doing something wrong. Any way to still force 1/2 refresh rate?

 

You should see the difference straight away when looking at menus, in game text, the ATC window or switching between windows and full screen.

 

1/2 refresh rate works fine for me, although I had to do it through inspector rather than control panel.

Simon

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You should see the difference straight away when looking at menus, in game text, the ATC window or switching between windows and full screen.

 

1/2 refresh rate works fine for me, although I had to do it through inspector rather than control panel.

Simon

 

Well, I can see that the resolution is higher and therefore the text in fsx is smaller, the image is smoother but I cant see a big change. I mean, the image is smooth and looks good but nothing signifcant..

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Well, I can see that the resolution is higher and therefore the text in fsx is smaller, the image is smoother but I cant see a big change. I mean, the image is smooth and looks good but nothing signifcant..

 

Same here.  I tried it a few hours ago on FS9 and FSX.  Don't see a difference other than a slightly blurry image when I increase smoothness.  I'm at 1.5/33%.

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Same here. There is an overall smoothness although the stutters are still there.

But no performance increase or better image quality.

 

Menno

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But no performance increase

 

:blink:

 

You can only see performance decrease. Is it 1% or 20%, depends on ratio (1.5x, 2x, 3x or 4x) and your GPU. The image overall looks smoother, and slightly, a small tiny notch sharper in my case - 1680x1050 monitor, 2.5x, 25%. Biggest difference for me is how smooth the image is, especially when I consider low AA settings that I use in Nvidia CP. You can test how sharper it is just by looking on cockpit displays, before and after.

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Same here.  I tried it a few hours ago on FS9 and FSX.  Don't see a difference other than a slightly blurry image when I increase smoothness.  I'm at 1.5/33%.

 

The main issue addressed is shimmers and those are really painful on my system whenever the camera viewpoint moves.  Anytime the airplane moves, I see shimmers.

 

Perhaps the shimmers weren't so much of an issue for you to start with?  On DX9 they weren't for me either, but DX10 is a different story.

 

FSX is full of trade-offs.  For me trading shimmers for slightly blurry display and maybe a small performance decrease is a win.  It will not be so for everyone.

 

Simon

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Same here. There is an overall smoothness although the stutters are still there.

But no performance increase or better image quality.

 

Menno

 

Yep - - this is just one of those placebo mythical cure all posts we see from time-to-time. Doing nothing for me either.

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If you're expecting this to reduce stutters or improve FPS.. yep, move on. It provides an alternative to some of the 'over-the-top' fancy-shmancy AA/filtering algorithms some of us require to reduce shimmers, flickering lines and moire patterns some of us experience due to our set-ups, and for that, I find it works quite well.

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