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How to transition add-ons from FSX to p3d

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Finally decided to pull the trigger and bought p3d tonight. I am trying to get used to the different menu's and settings and am a little confused on how to get my add-ons I have installed for FSX to install in p3d.

 

FTX Global

Active Sky NExt

Rex4 Texture Direct

FSUIPC

vpilot

 

How do I go about using these with p3d? Do I have to download my purchase again and re-install into p3d, or is there another way?

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A good start would be to go to each of their websites and get the new installers meant for P3Dv2x.

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A good start would be to go to each of their websites and get the new installers meant for P3Dv2x.

 

Thank you. So am I basically going to have a double installation of most of these add-ons? Taking up double the space?

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Most addons won't need a migrator anymore as they are now compatible. Lots of scenery that you have in FSX can simply be added to the P3d scenery library while others will need a new install.

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For all Orbx/FTX products, unless you just bought them,  you will need to download the new version and select P3D install option when installing. There is no charge to download the new version of anything you already purchased.

Any old FSX program add on that has it's own auto installer to FSX, you will have to use the Estonia Migration tool which you have to purchase, but it is only about $12.00. If you fly on line and use the old FSinn/FS Co Pilot you will absolutely need the Migration too to install this and use it. Most FSX add on aircraft will work in P3D, just pay attention to where you are aiming the installer to. Scenery is another thing though. Some will work and some will not. For sure the Orbx/FTX have to use the new versions.

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Estonian or russian migration tools, these are the most important tools in order to change from FSX to P3D.

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A word of caution. A migrator would be IMHO a waste of money for what you bought (except vpilot as I dont know the program) !

 

In two months with P3D, I never had the need for a "migrator" for any of my aircraft or sceneries and my P3D load is 200 Gb ! And it works OK. No strange artifacts, no OOMS, no stutter, no slowness,  just plain enjoyable flying. 

 

Good aircraft like A2A, Sibwings or RealAir are no problem with their existing installer pointing to the right direction. Just browse around before doing a transfer to check if anything else has to be done like adding a small module for Sibwings birds ( the migrator wont write it for you anyway).

 

For the sceneries, I mostly use OrbX stuff and I didn't need the migrator either. The newer FTX sceneries have indeed a triple installer and the older FTX sceneries are being converted to P3D (50/90 right now). Better wait for the conversion as they wont migrate well with a migrator for several reasons. First they need to be optimized for the new sim and secondly, they are continuously (several times a year) updated with animated ObjectFlow which don't go so well through a migator installation. And you will not get the support of OrbX in case of any problem.   

 

Now, there might be programs which will need a migrator but I've not found one yet :) !

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domkle,

I did state that Orbx/FSX have new installers.

If you fly on line with a friend or on Multi Playet flights with your VA (not VATSIM) and use the old FSinn/FS Co Pilot to access the server, you will absolutely need the Migration too to install this and use it.

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A word of caution. A migrator would be IMHO a waste of money for what you bought (except vpilot as I dont know the program)

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Everyone's mileage varies. I have found the migration tool to be indispensable. There are several programs which are no longer updated and/or are awaiting an update: EZDok, Airbus A320/A321, MyTraffic X, Accu-Feel, Orbx Bob, to name a few; which need to be redirected to P3D. This redirection is necessary not only for installation; but also for configuration and maintenance. Now this can all be done manually, but do you want the aggravation? If so, enjoy the project. Just being able to install/use EZDok was worth the price of admission for me.

 

Probably the best advice so far, is to go to the websites for all of your adddons, and check for installers for the latest version of P3D. If they're all available, no need for a migration tool. If not, figure out what: folders, symbolic links, dummy FSX exe/cfg files, dummy registry entries, etc are required so that the program will play nice with P3D....or just get the migrator tool.

 

This is not meant to disrespect domkle's post. Just different addons...different circumstances.

 

Graham

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Thanks guys, I was able to download each add-on I had purchased and use the p3d version installers. REX4, ASN, FTX Global, FSUIPC are all good to go. The only thing really left to try is VPilot, and a "high quality" 737 with fs2crew.

 

I am hoping VPilot will install and properly show other users aircraft while on VATSIM as I have a lot of models/liveries installed with IVAO. 

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Everyone's mileage varies. I have found the migration tool to be indispensable. There are several programs which are no longer updated and/or are awaiting an update: EZDok, Airbus A320/A321, MyTraffic X, Accu-Feel, Orbx Bob, to name a few; which need to be redirected to P3D. This redirection is necessary not only for installation; but also for configuration and maintenance. Now this can all be done manually, but do you want the aggravation? If so, enjoy the project. Just being able to install/use EZDok was worth the price of admission for me.

 

Probably the best advice so far, is to go to the websites for all of your adddons, and check for installers for the latest version of P3D. If they're all available, no need for a migration tool. If not, figure out what: folders, symbolic links, dummy FSX exe/cfg files, dummy registry entries, etc are required so that the program will play nice with P3D....or just get the migrator tool.

 

This is not meant to disrespect domkle's post. Just different addons...different circumstances.

 

Graham

 

No offence taken Graham. I've not yet met an addon that needs a migrator. Some may certainly need one but none of the OP's (except again, maybe, vpilot) as he confirmed it 

 

Now, I suspect that the migrators botch some conversions (that would be the case, I guess, for a non converted OrbX scenery) which may explain some screams and teeth grinding on this forum and accusations flying against devs. (LM,OrbX etc.)

 

As you wrote, better check with the devs 'site first and I could add, before blindly buy a potential useless utility.

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Some very, very interesting posts here as I have just pulled the trigger and made the purchase. I have many add-ons, e.g. FSDT, ORBX, FlyTampa, Aerosoft, PMDG, Level-D, just to name a few of the major names. So, not acquiring that Estonian Migration Tool, I could just visit the websites of these developers and get the P3D installers?

 

Please advice a total 'newbie'. Thanks.

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Some very, very interesting posts here as I have just pulled the trigger and made the purchase. I have many add-ons, e.g. FSDT, ORBX, FlyTampa, Aerosoft, PMDG, Level-D, just to name a few of the major names. So, not acquiring that Estonian Migration Tool, I could just visit the websites of these developers and get the P3D installers?

 

Please advice a total 'newbie'. Thanks.

 

Yes, just go to wherever you purchased/downloaded the add-on and you will have to re-download your add-on. You will see that A. There is a separate download for both p3d and fsx. B.If there isn't a separate download, you will see the option of which to install in the installer for the add-on if it has that option. 

 

I guess if it doesn't there's some "cheating" to do or use the migrating tool. I will confirm later this afternoon if VPilot makes the transition without it.

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Some devs/publishers have adapted their products, some not. You go to their site to check. 

 

If it is adapted (installer + optimization), you all clear. Download. Sometimes it is free (OrbX), sometimes it is not. Some have announced they will convert all their product line (OrbX, Real Air) , You'd better wait :). They know better.

 

Some devs/publishers have announced that they will not adapt older products (Aerosoft airports, I believe, for instance) or have not clearly stated that they will (A2A or Sibwings for instance).

 

You are then on your own You browse and ask to see how other users have done. Treasure hunt. Don't believe the first apprentice guru who has a miracle solution, cross check !  Some non converted products  easily work with the FSX installers, you just point to the P3D folder and add a fsx.exe. Some are trickier. In some cases, it seems that a migrator is necessary.

 

Some simmers use migrators for this purpose with (just my opinion) the risk to make a real mess when the addons is complex. Remember that P3D is not FSX (eg DX11) and with each LM update the less it will be and that transfering files into the right folders is a partial solution.

 

Some devs forbid to use their FSX products in P3D (no comment ...)  but they can be adapted as I often see screenies of PMDG aircraft (for instance :) ) in P3D screenshot forums.

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All the add-ons you listed in the start of this thread have P3D installers and will not require the migration tool.

 

This tool works fantastic though!   I used it for all of my non-P3D airports, aircraft and extra odds in ends (Accufeel, Shockwavelights, etc.) and with the exception of a couple airports and a plane or two, it worked great.

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Some very, very interesting posts here as I have just pulled the trigger and made the purchase. I have many add-ons, e.g. FSDT, ORBX, FlyTampa, Aerosoft, PMDG, Level-D, just to name a few of the major names. So, not acquiring that Estonian Migration Tool, I could just visit the websites of these developers and get the P3D installers?

 

Please advice a total 'newbie'. Thanks.

Rick,

 

For the most part, you should be good to go. Where there are no P3D installers, I used the migration tool. It will set you back all of 12 dollars.

 

FSDT - yes. I would install the latest standalone Addon Manager. If the installer is up to date, it will locate your P3D root folder and ask if you want to install there

 

Orbx - mostly yes. I had to trick the installers for Bozeman and Bob. Be sure you download and install the latest version of the P3D v2 libraries. There is a compatibility thread in their forum. You may need up to date installers

 

FlyTampa - yes. I have Tampa rebooted and Montreal. I would download latest installers

 

Aerosoft - depends. A318/A319 ok. Brandenburg ok. AES no, even with migration tool. Heathrow Xtended ok. A320/A321 - needs to be tricked manually or with migration tool (there will be a P3D compatible version shortly) . Munich needs to be tricked.

 

PMDG - not advisable. Violates EULA. 747 and NGX need to be tricked. 777 will not function (purposely crippled). I have none of them installed. See this post:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/454122-25oct14-first-glance-at-pmdg-777-200-for-prepar3d/

 

Level D - I don't have any of their products.

 

Hope this gives you a start,

 

Graham

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Thanks, guys, for all those very helpful posts. Just installing P3D. What about the earlier question of utilising the full gamut of a 64-bit OS, Windows 7 64-bit Pro+Haswell 4.2GHz+16Gb RAM? If it does, I will look to upgrade my current CTX560Ti GPU later.

 

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Brilliant Graham. Thank you, sir. Most informative.

Aerosoft's airports, AXE 320/321+A318/319. Forgot to add UK2000 airports to earlier list.

 

Will leave PMDG as it works solidly for me in FSX as it currently stands.

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Just made my very first flight, in the default Baron 58. Rock steady 20FPS throughout a short sortie. Impressed. Now to climb up the progression tree, adding as per advices here.

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Yeah I wasn't super impressed by the visuals of the sim, then again I don't have it set up properly yet. My only big complaint is how reflective the water looks like a mirror.looks fake even with Rex textures.

 

Any one know if there's a way to import fsuipc settings from fsx? Would hate to have to program it again in p3d.

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Forgot to add UK2000 airports to earlier list.

 

Rick,

 

I moved over to Aerosoft Heathrow Xtended. No knock against UK2000. While I used UK2000, no issues.

 

Graham

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Yeah I wasn't super impressed by the visuals of the sim, then again I don't have it set up properly yet. My only big complaint is how reflective the water looks like a mirror.looks fake even with Rex textures.

 

Any one know if there's a way to import fsuipc settings from fsx? Would hate to have to program it again in p3d.

 

 

Just copy your Fsuipc.ini over to P3D and also the profiles and any macro files you may have

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Thanks it worked smooth! 

 

I am having issues with vPilot. I got it installed over into p3d and ti shows up in the game menus correctly but I'm just not seeing other aircraft. I am using the IVAO model set.

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