Guys I genuinely do think it's a good step up from the trainers. With time, I'm sure they will model even faster GA's. Just ensure you all support them . But really looking forward to it... No other developer fully models what it is really like to own, operate and maintain your personal aircraft.

 

They should, really and truly, have an option to have suitcases in the back seat  It's that kind of airplane...made for trips. :rolleyes:

It was a suprising choice to me, but as their stuff is so good I'm looking forward to it. So far they've managed to capture the feel of the planes they model so they are all very different.

 

Credit card ready.

I think we are getting more 'variety' than it appears.  There are already some very nice 'full featured' speedy cross country machines already, Legacy, Duke/TDuke, Civ Mustang...etc, but very few choices of the same caliber for small plane bush flying.

 

Yeah, it looks like a 172, but in terms of 'class' and functionality its like comparing a Toyota Corolla to Toyota Forerunner, one is for short trips and teaching your kids to drive, while the other is for hauling stuff/people to more remote places.  True, it isn't the Dodge Charger we had originally thought with the V35, but if your A to B trip happens to end up at some backwoods strip in Idaho, the 182 is a perfect choice.   It is kind of nice that we are getting a reasonably legit bush plane since those tend to be more few and far between in the FS world.  Since RealAir is about to release T-Duke V2, it is a win win.  What do you bet RealAir will release their Scout V2 when A2A releases their V35...kind of a role reversal lol.  

 

We will get our V35/Comanche eventually, look at it this way, each A2A release brings new 'stuff'...when the V-35 rolls out it will have more accusim 'stuff' not modeled yet.

 

I would love a DC3 - even though that seems to be outside your strategy of GA planes that people fly now.

I would love a DC-3 too, and just because a 182 is in the works doesn't mean A2A won't suprise us with something else too.  A2A also have a T-6 and T-33 works, so we know will get more than GA singles.

 

Those two we know about but there are no doubt other projects we don't know about yet.  No one knew about this 182 until it was announced, so expect some more surprises from A2A.

 

In the meantime we can enjoy Manfred Jahn's great DC-3...they are working on a vintage virtual cockpit for it now.  There have also been some speculation of a PMDG DC-3, so the future is good no matter what projects are announced.

 

Cheers

TJ

 

 

What's this about a botched release?

 

They had a lot of glitches and unrealistic behavior with 172 release but after a lot of feedback from simmers here and by some who flew it regularly they eventually got the 172 to an acceptable level of realism, to their credit.

I would love a DC-3 too, and just because a 182 is in the works doesn't mean A2A won't suprise us with something else too.  A2A also have a T-6 and T-33 works, so we know will get more than GA singles.

 

Those two we know about but there are no doubt other projects we don't know about yet.  No one knew about this 182 until it was announced, so expect some more surprises from A2A.

 

In the meantime we can enjoy Manfred Jahn's great DC-3...they are working on a vintage virtual cockpit for it now.  There have also been some speculation of a PMDG DC-3, so the future is good no matter what projects are announced.

 

Cheers

TJ

 

PMDG are working on a DC-6

 

 

They had a lot of glitches and unrealistic behavior with 172 release but after a lot of feedback from simmers here and by some who flew it regularly they eventually got the 172 to an acceptable level of realism, to their credit.

 

Ah.  Yeah, that was true.  Seems about as good as it could be in FSX now, though.  Even more, from my recollection, the C182 is nicer to handle in slow flight and stalls...at least the one I flew was.

PMDG are working on a DC-6

 

True. There's also some speculation about a DC-3 based on the fact that Robert Randazzo restored one and flies one.  But in contrast to the DC-6, which is a known project, they haven't said anything themselves about a DC-3.  References to "PMDG Classics" in the plural, and Rob's DC-3 ownership, is all anybody has to go on.

 

Frankly, much as I've lobbied for one, Manfred's is so good that once the vintage VC comes along, I'm not sure that we're going to need one from either PMDG or A2A.  Given the price of Manfred's, it's likely to rank as one of the best-value aircraft in flightsim history...  B)

PMDG are working on a DC-6

 

Yeah I am aware of the DC-6.  I have also seen some vague hints that PMDG would/could (again pure speculation) also do a DC-3, considering Mr Randazzo owns a real one.

Personally, I agree that the new 182T may be too similar in look and feel to A2A's C172, which I already own.

 

Same here. I find it disappointing that my favorite developers A2A and RealAir stopped bringing something really refreshing to the table. Sure, technically there might be tons of reasons to call a 182T quite different, but to me it feels just the same, as if they're intentionally trying to recycle some parts of previous planes to reduce development time and costs.

 

737guy1 suggested a business jet and I'm with him on that one, because the business jets that I've flown so far, incl. the Carenado Phenom, didn't have that A2A quality that many of us appreciate.

The way I see it,  the Cherokee was a lot better than the C172, and if the C182 is better still, we have got a really nice plane coming our way!

 

 

 

 

C172 and Cherokke have completely different stacks, not a single gauge is identical. Some may be similar, because all in all, they are manufactured by the same company. C172R has the Silver Crown stack that was installed in the factory, the Cherokee has the old generation units with gas discharge displays, plus completely different autopilot and auxiliary avionics.

 

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=35579

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http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=40159

 

Anything older than that, and we're talking about analog instruments, that would take a lot of space and make Cherokee a much worse IFR platform. Besides, that's the equipment that was installed in a real airplane which was the main source of interior reference.

 

 

Those are indeed quite different! I never really looked any further than a quick peek at screenshots of these two stacks and obviously didn't know what I was talking about. Seeing them side by side like this it seems A2A did go the extra mile... My apologies.

The airplanes may be different, but personally I get tired of low and slow unless it is in real life. I like an airplane that goes fast enough to hop between spread out airports in all the regions. Flying little trips in PNW can only be enjoyable for so long.

 

 

The airplanes may be different, but personally I get tired of low and slow unless it is in real life. I like an airplane that goes fast enough to hop between spread out airports in all the regions. Flying little trips in PNW can only be enjoyable for so long.

 

There's some truth in that statement.

If you don't like low n slow, good news, there is a T-33 in the works B).   The T-6 won't be slowpoke either.  If you can master the T-6 you can handle just about anything, including the Mustang.

 

The 182 is a 140kt plane, the Comanche is a 160kt plane.  An 800nm trip in the 182 would take about 5.7 hrs, while the Comanche would take about 5hrs(assuming you don't run out of fuel @ those power settings)...that is .7 difference ~ 42 mins., about the length of a typical TV episode these days lol   :wink:

 

Again its pretty relative, the Comanche/V35 are in the 160-170kt range....by comparison the Legacy(@ normal cruise settings) is in the 230kt ballpark, the T Duke (@High Cruise power) and Civil Mustang are around 290(@ max range econ power), so there is basically a short jump in speed between 182-Comanche, then big jump to Legacy, and another big jump to the TDuke and Civil Mustang.  Where do you want A2A to go in that ballpark?  Do you want warbird speeds?

 

Actually I hope A2A does a quality bush package expansion for the 182(Tundra, Amphib)...I would pay for it as I am sure a lot of other virtual bush pilots would...there hasn't been accusimmed water physics since the Cub.  

 

 

Cheers

TJ