First experience with 4K monitor

[BimmerCop 332]

Efrain! Good to see you back.

 

Well the reason I said that was because I used to use a TV as a monitor. I hated the experience.

 

Nice to see you too,brother!

[gboz 157]

 

 

Native res is 3820x2160. First observation is the the picture is fantastic but there are a few issues.

 

 

 

To be fair to the monitor, I am running some high settings and I have 4SGSS set in NVI.

 

Vic, you should not need any SGSS with a 4K monitor (in theory).

Try it with just X2 or X4 MSAA.

You should get quite a few frames back.

 

Also Win8 scales 4K menu/desktop text etc much better than Win7, I read.

 

gb

[Appliance 51]

Well my opinion, for what's it worth, is that the perfect compromise between resolution, desk real estate, easy driving and general usefulness is the 21:9 monitors typified by the LG 34UM95-P and similar.

 

Checkout this thread of a couple of days ago :-

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/451143-219-aspect-ratio-monitors-for-p3d/

[PingPong 60]

I use a 58 inch Panasonic TV 4K TV as a display with Display Port, and I LOVE IT.   I use two titans GPUS in SLI to drive it.  There is a monitor mode that removes any and all post processing.

 

Display port is the only format right now that can do 4K at 60fps, HDMI2 can as well, but the titan doesn't support it.  The new 900 series Nvidia cards may be different.

 

I think the OP is using too high an AA setting, more resolutions means you can probably turn down AA quite a bit.

[peppy197 165]

I was able to customize a res of 3168x1782 which I sometimes use when needed and this increases my fluidity and fps significantly although not by a tremendous amount

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[Bob Scott 7,714]

Dell U3011 @ 2560x1600 is still the best FS option imho... 

 

I have to agree.  A "4K" 3840x2160 TV (actually UHD, true 4K is 4096x2160) has just over twice the pixel count of the U3011 at 2560x1600.  I am able to keep my nose comfortably above the water w/r/t frame rates on the U3011...it seems likely that even a strong cutting-edge machine with an overclocked 980 might be struggling to keep frame rates acceptable at double the frame size.  I also like the more vertically-spatious 16:10 AR better than 16:9 for simming, although a 55" UHD TV at normal monitor sitting distance (~3 feet) might change that.

 

I've seen a couple folks recently suggest that AA isn't as important, and can be turned down at the higher res...I don't follow that argument.  A jaggy is still a jaggy--the only way I can imagine higher res reducing the need for AA is if the viewing distance is increased to the point where the eye's resolution can no longer perceive the fine detail, so the smaller jaggies blend in.  But for close-in use, where the increased resolution is used to expand the FOV, AA is still just as important as it has always been, and AA/AF on close to 8 megapixels per frame is a heapin' helpin' of workload for the video card.

 

Regards

[Firstflighteducation 0]

I use a 58 inch Panasonic TV 4K TV as a display with Display Port, and I LOVE IT.   I use two titans GPUS in SLI to drive it.  There is a monitor mode that removes any and all post processing.

 

Display port is the only format right now that can do 4K at 60fps, HDMI2 can as well, but the titan doesn't support it.  The new 900 series Nvidia cards may be different.

 

I think the OP is using too high an AA setting, more resolutions means you can probably turn down AA quite a bit.

I'm thinking of using a 55" Samsung 4K curved TV with a GTX780C 6GB and a second 19" touchscreen.  Are you ONLY using the tv or are you driving another monitor, too?

[jcorstjens 63]

I just connected a 4xHD 49'' TV to my simulator, and fly it at the nominal 3850*2160 resolution. Graphics card is Geforce 660 GTX 2Mb.

In one word mind blowing !!

As well the VC's as the 3D world look outstanding, extremely sharp and crispy. Performance in P3D is top class and better than in FSX.

I am totally sold to this setup, I enjoy simflying more than ever!

 

Jan

[vgbaron 3,486]

I want to clarify one issue about my problem with 4K monitor.

 

The visuals were exceptional! My problem stemmed from the fact that I have two monitors - the 4K at 3860 and another at 1920.

 

The issue was text scaling - even with 20/20 vision the text size on the 4K was very difficult to read but the problem was that when I scaled up the text size on the 4K - Windows 7 automatically scaled it up on the 1920, thus making the second monitor text very large.

 

If I wanted to buy TWO 4K units - the problem wouldn't be there - I also understand that Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 support individual scaling of monitors - however I'm not ready to switch OS yet.

 

SO, to clarify - if you only run 1 monitor - the image quality on a 4K is great. I left all Nvidia settings at default - no AA, etc - not a jaggy in sight. Beautiful.

 

Vic

[PingPong 60]

I'm thinking of using a 55" Samsung 4K curved TV with a GTX780C 6GB and a second 19" touchscreen.  Are you ONLY using the tv or are you driving another monitor, too?

I am only driving the one monitor, since it takes up my whole field of vision.

 

I actually wanted a Samsung curved display, but when I looked into it, i saw that if you want 60 fps refresh rate at 4k, it needed HDMI 2, which the nvidia cards do not support.

 

Since display port is what the cards support now, I went with the Panasonic, as it was the only display port model available. 

 

This was in the summer, things may have changed since...

[Emmanuel39S 0]

Hi,

 

I plan to add to my pit for the visual 3 4k 49" LG IPS TVs 49UB850V (49UB8500 equivalent for the US market) driven by 2 GTX 980 in SLI.

I'd like to have them as 2 lateral: left (120 degrees from central view to compensate the very short distance from my seat (+/- 20")) & right (90 degrees from central but +/-40" from the seat) and central view (+/- 30" from me)

I don't intend to use them as 3x4K res. as I figured (by the readings I read) that no GC are able (even in SLI) to drive them all at that res, but I'd like to now if the upscaling in FHD would ruin the visual or if just the short distance between my seat and the monitors will do...?

I also have a third GC that drives 3 other monitors (2 10" LCD touchscreen and a small 8" LCD) for the avionics & misc (G500, GTN suite and eng. monitoring), and yet another (last) 19" monitor for the eng. inst. (driven by a small laptop).

I use P3D v2.4.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Emmanuel

[odourboy 1,287]

I am only driving the one monitor, since it takes up my whole field of vision.

 

I actually wanted a Samsung curved display, but when I looked into it, i saw that if you want 60 fps refresh rate at 4k, it needed HDMI 2, which the nvidia cards do not support.

 

Since display port is what the cards support now, I went with the Panasonic, as it was the only display port model available. 

 

This was in the summer, things may have changed since...

Any problems with banding on your Panasonic? I'm drawn to this one in particular (still the only 4k model to offer Dispalyport support) , but reports of banding, particularly during motion, have come up on.

[gboz 157]

In case anyone missed it the latest nVidia GTX9xx cards

have HDMI 2 output.

 

gb.

[PingPong 60]

Any problems with banding on your Panasonic? I'm drawn to this one in particular (still the only 4k model to offer Dispalyport support) , but reports of banding, particularly during motion, have come up on.

 

I have not seen any, from my research, the banding artifacts were primarily with the larger 65" models, I have the (relatively) smaller 58".