TurbineDuke V2..VS..SuperKing Air Flight 1

[747-fan 19]

Mr. Young, I did make it clear in my very first sentence that the my opinion is based on the old Turbine Duke version and the B200. I did check the upgrade features when it came out, and I've watched various youtube videos on it and read the feedback, which seems positive, but I've chosen not to upgrade. The OP wanted opinions, and I've given mine. There's no way i'd add a complete V2 update features list to my post, and frankly I think you're being unfair if that's what you're expecting me to do.

 

If it makes you happy I can always add that yes, the V2 has G750 integration as well. To me it sounds like a fine thing to do, but I don't have or plan on getting the G750. That would add quite a lot to the update price. If I didn't already own the RXP 430 and 530, I might consider the G750. Again, that's a subjective opinion.

 

The Civil P-51 is great too, if you want a good challenge, try hand-flying it through one of the LAX north-south VFR corridors when ATC is busy and fully staffed on Vatsim or IVAO.  

 

Another extremely well made turboprop option is the Majestic Dash, but that's an airliner and I don't suppose that's what you're after?

[dgraham1284 92]

I haven't read the whole thread. But, the Flight1 King Air B200 will not work in P3D v2. I have it, tried it. No dice. 

[robert young 2,897]

Mr. Young, I did make it clear in my very first sentence that the my opinion is based on the old Turbine Duke version and the B200. I did check the upgrade features when it came out, and I've watched various youtube videos on it and read the feedback, which seems positive, but I've chosen not to upgrade. 

 

Please read what I said again. I said I have no objections to anyone stating a preference. It would be ridiculous to do that.  I didn't ask you to list the new features. I asked you not to make false statements. The Original Poster did not ask for opinions on the T Duke V1, which is now a discontinued product, but the T Duke V2 vs Kingair. Read the thread title!

 

You ignored that and reviewed V1, which is not what was asked, and then made speculative judgements about V2 based on no personal experience whatever.

 

When you submit a review about anything connected with FSX, you have to take the responsibility for what you say.

[747-fan 19]

Oh, I'm sorry I misread your post.

 

I didn't misread the OP or thread title though. Which is precisely why I stated that I compare it to V1 in my very first sentence of my first post, which I encourage you to read again. It's a pretty clear disclaimer. I wrote it to ensure that the OP reads my post in light of the fact that I don't own V2, just the older version.

 

I wanted to contribute in good faith, and I did so with what I could. 

 

Please read what I said again. I said I have no objections to anyone stating a preference. It would be ridiculous to do that.  I didn't ask you to list the new features. I asked you not to make false statements. The Original Poster did not ask for opinions on the T Duke V1, which is now a discontinued product, but the T Duke V2 vs Kingair. Read the thread title!

 

You ignored that and reviewed V1, which was not what was asked, and then made speculative judgements about V2 based on no personal experience whatever.

 

When you submit a review about anything connected with FSX, you have to take the responsibility for what you say.

[KingGhidorah 209]

I don't like the control balances in either F1 King Air and Duke v2 (piston), and with the Duke I've already belabored that point so no need to go into it again.  Moving on to some other things, I don't like the loud swoosh sounds and the overly bassy ground rumble in the Duke, and I wish I could disable adjust some of those airframe sounds, but the control panel (a good control panel) doesn't allow me to zero in on those.  In the King Air, I don't like the unrealistically long lag time of the engines from the time you move the power levers.  The Duke Turbine V1 (and I assume the same on V2) got this closer to reality for these engines. 

 

Currently, the only turboprops that I'm using are the Jetstream and the DHC8, and those are airliners.  Both of those planes really hammered it down with the control feeling, the systems, the engines, and just about everything, and both are an absolute pleasure to hand fly.  They are in a league of their own, and the DHC8 even more so.

 

If it is between King Air and Duke, I would vote for the Duke, but I wouldn't argue with someone who prefers the F1 King Air.  I do look forward to the Milviz King Air, because if the same person is doing the FM on it that did the Baron and the Cessna 310, then I think it will be really good.  Now if only Father Bill would use the photorealistic style graphics for the panel that Real Air uses...

[Ebs 114]

Another vote for the Turbine Duke V2 here, although to be fair I haven't used the F1 B200, even though I'm interested. I love F1 for their GTN 750 but they seem to have a real fear of P3D, going so far as to actually disable FSX products in P3D and after their iFly 737 debacle it kind of turns me off, will we ever see the B200 for P3D? hmmm.

 

747-fan, I have to say that you're a bit out of line comparing the V1 Duke with the B200, the V1 was released in 2011, and the B200 in 2014, but if the V1 Duke FDE is 'at least equal to' the B200, then that's pretty good going for a 3 year time difference wouldn't you say? I mean, the thread title clearly states 'V2', I would encourage you to read it again but it might come over as a flame so I won't do that

[dgraham1284 92]

Another vote for the Turbine Duke V2 here, although to be fair I haven't used the F1 B200, even though I'm interested. I love F1 for their GTN 750 but they seem to have a real fear of P3D, going so far as to actually disable FSX products in P3D and after their iFly 737 debacle it kind of turns me off, will we ever see the B200 for P3D? hmmm.

 

747-fan, I have to say that you're a bit out of line comparing the V1 Duke with the B200, the V1 was released in 2011, and the B200 in 2014, but if the V1 Duke FDE is 'at least equal to' the B200, then that's pretty good going for a 3 year time difference wouldn't you say? I mean, the thread title clearly states 'V2', I would encourage you to read it again but it might come over as a flame so I won't do that

 

 

The GTN 750 is in Prepar3d.  I own both that and the FSX verison.

 

http://www.flight1tech.com/products/avionicssimulations/f1tgtn.aspx

[747-fan 19]

That's so kind of you Ebs   :wink:

 

Anyway it seems to be a pretty useless comparison so long as the B200 really isn't P3D compatible as per Mr. Graham's test. I checked out the B200 forums but they don't seem to mention it as a potential update at all. While the Duke V2 is going to be updated to P3D sometime soon.

 

So I'd say the choice has already been made for the OP for a fast and light turbine twin.

[Ebs 114]

The GTN 750 is in Prepar3d.  I own both that and the FSX verison.

 

http://www.flight1tech.com/products/avionicssimulations/f1tgtn.aspx

 

Yeah, I have the 750 for P3D, like I said, I love it. I'm still getting the feeling that Flight1 don't really appreciate P3D too much though. they probably have interests elsewhere.

[dgraham1284 92]

Yeah, I have the 750 for P3D, like I said, I love it. I'm still getting the feeling that Flight1 don't really appreciate P3D too much though. they probably have interests elsewhere.

 

Sorry, misinterpreted what you said. 

[z06z33 763]

Turbine Duke V2

[Poppet 703]

Thank you everybody for your opinions.     I read a lot of reviews today, watched a load of Videos,  so finally my obsessive compulsive brain has decided and settled on one decision. 

 

Yes my first Twin Prop Plane purchase for 2015 will indeed be the TurbineDuke V2 when released for PD3.

 

Seen this today. 

 

[jjjallen 37]

I really don't mind you expressing your preferences, but I do think you should base them on facts, especially when you are making such a stark statement like "landslide".

 

Almost everything you say is factually wrong:

 

There are enormous differences between the V1 T Duke and the V2 T Duke. I won't go through the list but when you say "Unless something dramatic has changed...and frankly it doesn't look like it", you clearly did not bother to check. If nothing had changed then presumably the last year or so of our full time work updating it has passed you by, but it is all there on our website, and there is a current thread right here on the FSX forum about the V2 Duke which has 50,000 views and hundreds of informed reviews by people who've actually flown it!

 

You refer to the RXP gauge integration but missed a rather important additional GTN integration which is far superior to the RXPs, but we still retain the option for the integration of both.

 

I'll leave your other comments alone. Let me stress....nothing wrong with comparing and the F1 Kingair is no doubt very fine, but please at least base your info on facts not false assumptions. Thank you.

Rock on Robert!

 

Regards

jja

[z06z33 763]

 

Thank you everybody for your opinions. I read a lot of reviews today, watched a load of Videos, so finally my obsessive compulsive brain has decided and settled on one decision.

 

Yes my first Twin Prop Plane purchase for 2015 will indeed be the TurbineDuke V2 when released for PD3.

 

Seen this today.

 

 

 

Just an FYI the Turbine Duke V2 FSX version works great in p3dv2.

[pilottj 198]

I think the closer comparison to the Turbine Duke will be the Milviz Mu-2 when it is released, and not in a who's is better sense, but simply for the sake of comparing the aircraft designs themselves. I look forward to the Mu complimenting the Turbine Duke in my hangar.

 

Cheers

TJ