Majestic Dash-8 Q400 Pilot Edition - $17!

[JayBirdski 1]

Well the saga continues.  I did get an email from my CC company saying a credit had been issued but no correspondence from PCA at all.   Plane still flies.   When I pulled up account info in control panel, it said I was in pending verification.    Pretty sure I would be screwed were I try to re-install.    Unfortunate they're actively trying to void those purchases but I think we all knew this was likely a mistake within their system we took advantage of.  Perhaps it was just a bit too big of a hit to take even for the very short time it was on sale.

[PieEater 10]

Pretty sure that in most countries once money has been taken for goods or services that constitutes a contract between both parties and the party providing the goods or services does not have the right to change their mind on the price agreed when the contract was entered into. I guess if I were fortunate enough to have been able to have purchased products at the low prices advertised I would be asking PCA to honour the original contract or asking on what legal basis they are refusing to honour it. If payment was made by credit card it may be possible that the credit card company would become involved if you made them aware of the situation as I understand that they generally offer legal protection for purchases made through their services.

[carlito777 712]

 

 

Pretty sure that in most countries once money has been taken for goods or services that constitutes a contract between both parties and the party providing the goods or services does not have the right to change their mind on the price agreed when the contract was entered into. I guess if I were fortunate enough to have been able to have purchased products at the low prices advertised I would be asking PCA to honour the original contract or asking on what legal basis they are refusing to honour it. If payment was made by credit card it may be possible that the credit card company would become involved if you made them aware of the situation as I understand that they generally offer legal protection for purchases made through their services.

 

This is absolutely right. At least under European law, it is not legal what PCAviator is doing. They have entered a contract and can't void the contract simply because they don't like the price at which they sold the product.

[nikaslan 9]

This is absolutely right. At least under European law, it is not legal what PCAviator is doing. They have entered a contract and can't void the contract simply because they don't like the price at which they sold the product.

 

I don't know under what law does PCAviator operate, but I have the feeling that should all the affected customers issued lawsuits they would loose much more money than if they honored the low priced contracts.

[Ebs 114]

Guys, really?

 

There was a glitch in the system and some of you are talking about taking legal action against PCAviator because they won't let you keep your incorrectly priced addon? Unbelievable. 

and some of you are still trying to get around activation and 'reinstalls' etc. even after you've received the refund? we're getting very close to the 'P' word here.

 

Respect to the guys who said 'oh well, it was a mistake' and moved on, but the children talking about lawsuits over the difference of $43 is pathetic. If you can't afford the Q400 at $60, wait for a legitimate sale or go outside, get a job and save up like the rest of us have to.

[carlito777 712]

Guys, really?

 

There was a glitch in the system and some of you are talking about taking legal action against PCAviator because they won't let you keep your incorrectly priced addon? Unbelievable.

and some of you are still trying to get around activation and 'reinstalls' etc. even after you've received the refund? we're getting very close to the 'P' word here.

 

Respect to the guys who said 'oh well, it was a mistake' and moved on, but the children talking about lawsuits over the difference of $43 is pathetic. If you can't afford the Q400 at $60, wait for a legitimate sale or go outside, get a job and save up like the rest of us have to.

Your response is just as unbelievable. There are laws in place and EVERYBODY has to respect those rules. What PCAviator does is nothing else than an illegal breach of contracts. This has nothing to do with "accepting that they made an error". From a legal perspective it is another error they are committing now. Period. That's the only thing I'm saying. Maybe you should save some money and get some law classes.

[Ebs 114]

That's the only thing I'm saying. Maybe you should save some money and get some law classes.

 

That's the only thing you're saying because you don't actually know what you're talking about.

 

I could 'get some law classes' Or, you know, I could just spend 5 minutes on Google...

 

http://consumerist.com/2011/12/22/canceling-orders-over-a-pricing-error-is-not-the-same-as-bait-and-switch/

"[...] that does not mean that the seller is required to honor the original price"

 

http://globalnews.ca/news/1355313/lenovo-canada-cancels-customer-orders-after-online-pricing-error/

“the provision (section 74.05 of the Competition Act) does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.”

 

http://conversation.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/pricing-mistake-next-ms-sofa-tv-online-shops-honour/ (EU)

"[...] where it is clear there is a mistake, the consumer cannot then take advantage of that mistake."

 

http://www.consumeradvertisinglawblog.com/2013/05/oops-pricing-mistakes-by-online-retailers.html

"at least where a posted price is so egregiously low—or, in Razor’s case, a coupon so dramatically over-generous—that a reasonable consumer would suspect it is a mistake, this doctrine would entitle the retailer to repudiate the contract. "

 

Carlo, if I were you I'd ask for a refund for those 'law classes' that you took.

 

Class dismissed.

[carlito777 712]

All the things you cited would apply if they had offered the Majestic for, let's say, 0.50 USD instead of the original 50 USD. This would have been an obvious mistake. At 17 USD it is not obvious as deep discounts are quite common in simming. Anyways, let's agree to disagree. What PCAviator did was bad business practice one way or the other. And I will not buy there anymore. Everybody can decide with their wallet.

[jimmy64 43]

All the things you cited would apply if they had offered the Majestic for, let's say, 0.50 USD instead of the original 50 USD. This would have been an obvious mistake. At 17 USD it is not obvious as deep discounts are quite common in simming. Anyways, let's agree to disagree. What PCAviator did was bad business practice one way or the other. And I will not buy there anymore. Everybody can decide with their wallet.

Sorry Carlo but Neil is right on this one. We're not talking about Wilco here. $17 is an obvious mistake for a high level developer such as Majestic. I do agree however that PCAviator probably should have just accepted the minor losses of their mistake and moved on.

[carlito777 712]

 

 

$17 is an obvious mistake for a high level developer such as Majestic.

 

This might be an "obvious" mistake for you as a sim insider. However, I'm 100% certain it does not qualify as a "legal mistake" along the lines of the sources Neil has quoted. No court would ever rule that price as a price which for the buyer must have been obvious to be a mistake. But let's stop that discussion here. This is taking all of us nowhere.

 

And by the way: I have purchased the Majestic Q400 long time ago at a nice discount of 25% at Just Flight. And the Majestic is absolutely worth even the full price! So in any case: Go out there and buy the Q400 if you haven't yet. I just would not buy it at PCAviator... ;-)

[jimmy64 43]

 

 

I have purchased the Majestic Q400 long time ago at a nice discount of 25% at Just Flight.

Nice!! Can't wait for the Pro edition.

[Jim Young 2,356]

I'm locking this as it is only going downhill more and more.