Ya, it should be out by 2008 :-lol Dave---------------------------------------------------System Specs:Athlon64 3500+ ClawHammer @ 2.3mhzECS NForce4 A-939 Mobo (1g FSB)1.5G of OCZ Performance PC3200 Ram (Dual Channel)ATI Radeon X800Pro PCI-E 256MB (Catalyst 5.6 @ 520/540)SoundBlaster Live 24bitSaitek Cyborg EvoWinXP SP1

I wouldn't call it a 'reworked' version. Owen built it from the ground up in Gmax. His VC is very good, and fun to fly from. Its simply that all the systems aren't modelled/designed into the cockpit. So its mostly just photo bitmaps, plus default gauges, but along with the usual animated light switches/engine start controls etc. But its not meant to be a $40 payware VC. The point is that you get the T-38 (also freshly updated in Gmax), plus the C-17, and all for $12. A steal in my opinion.I doubt Owen will be updating it any further, as he has now left FSD, and as they are still the ones selling it, perhaps they've bought the rights to his model or something?Anyway, I think its just brilliant as it is! Great fun!Al.

Al,Thanks for replying, I was very concerned that there is no 2D panel picture displayed on the web-site? Any chance of uploading a picture please?Dave T. .........On the Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim User's Group' member at http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/

Dave,get the AlphaSim C5....it is really nice and has a really nice looking VC!