Prepar3d v2.5 vs X-plane 10.35

[Anxu00 176]

P3Dv2 is not FSX.  The code lineage is from ESP version of FSX, but it is not FSX.  Some add-ons that work fine in FSX, do not work at all in P3D.  If you have much invested in FSX, you may want to look first in your add-ons seller to see if they offer free upgrade support, then count the amount of money you need to spend on P3Dv2 to get your must-have add-ons like PMDG.  P3Dv2 performs much better than FSX with much better visuals (for my system, you need better hardware to run it).  If you only are going to have one, go with P3Dv2.  If you can afford it, also get XPX as well.  XPX 10.35+ still need work in term of decent weather injector and the fix to visibility bug, and also prepare to spend some money on good payware (I found the Carenado in XPX much better than their FSX counterparts).  On the flip side, there are a tremendous amount of freewares for XPX that are as good or better than paywares (scenery that is).  I have both and I use each one for the type of plane that I fly.  Airliners in XPX are not comparable to P3Dv2 for example, so I only fly GA and light twin in XPX.  Good luck.

[Wobbie 938]

True, P3D is NOT FSX, so, you have to regard P3D as a totaly different sim, with some compatibility. Remember when we went from FS9 to FSX?

So, go for whatever sim you prefer & also the correct add-ons for that sim. Shoe-horning something from a different sim into P3D & then complaining cuts no ice!

[Holton181 0]

Just want to add:

 

If you plan to fly helicopters as realistic as possible (far from the real thing for both sims), there isn't much of a choice. X-Plane is far superior in that field than FSX/P3D. You can use the HTR (Helicopter Total Realism) for FSX/P3D to get it a little bit closer, but it won't be enough.

But helicopters can be hard to master in X-Plane, it is almost required that you get yourself some full length cyclic.

I exclusively fly helicopters and therefor almost exclusively X-Plane, but what I miss the most from FSX/P3D is the AI ATC and dynamic AI planes, with its radio chatter.

[WotanUK 289]

Can i suggest a 3rd choice, if simming helicopters and / or military jets you might want to look at DCS World, best part is that it's free.

[Raven9000 272]

Can i suggest a 3rd choice, if simming helicopters and / or military jets you might want to look at DCS World, best part is that it's free.

Dcs world free? Seriously? I guess you missed the part that an good addon costs a lot of cash...

[Flying Penguin 44]

Dcs world free? Seriously? I guess you missed the part that an good addon costs a lot of cash...

 

Holy thread resurrection Batman! 

 

As an aside, it's mostly 75% off in the Steam sale, most stuff is sub $15.  It's the same every Steam sale, and you don't even need to use the Steam version, you can use the licence code to activate the completely non-Steam version...

 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/223750/

 

Their sales pattern is closely tied to the Steam sale pattern, so careful shopping makes DCS remarkably inexpensive.

[Raven9000 272]

Holy thread resurrection Batman! 

 

As an aside, it's mostly 75% off in the Steam sale, most stuff is sub $15.  It's the same every Steam sale, and you don't even need to use the Steam version, you can use the licence code to activate the completely non-Steam version...

 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/223750/

 

Their sales pattern is closely tied to the Steam sale pattern, so careful shopping makes DCS remarkably inexpensive.

Ok, well:

1) you don't have to convince me, I have a lot of content and love it

 

But

 

2) careful shopping makes it "remarkably inexpensive"? Come on!! It's over 200 bucks even with this sale!

 

Still, awesome game!!

[Guest Mik75]

For me, it's both! Without a doubt! It's even all three of them: FSX Acceleration, P3D 2.5, XPX (and DCS World), and all are on the same machine! ;-)

XPX has the superior graphics and the better flight model (in my opinion)! The sensation of flight, is second to none for me!

And, so many essential addons (simheaven OSM- and photo scenery, nicely done airport sceneries, etc) are free- or donationware!

ESP (FSX and P3D) offers a lot of very nice and detailed scenery and extremly complex aircraft, like PMDG.

Good times for us flight simmers! ;-)

[jason74 133]

I fly Both X-Plane 10.40 and P3Dv2.5 they both have there good points and Bad.  I have to say night flying in X-pane is so much better than in P3D.  If we had the NGX, 777 and Majestic dash 8 for X-plane 10 id never look back at P3D

[Flying Penguin 44]

2) careful shopping makes it "remarkably inexpensive"? Come on!! It's over 200 bucks even with this sale!

 

There are 75%ish off sales every 3 months, like clockwork.  In fact there was one about 2 days ago.  That puts it a shade under $200 for everything.

 

That is:

• 11 full-fat planes that are up at A2A/PMDG/RealAir level
• 7 planes that are at least on par with the non-complex Carenado aircraft, and in flight modelling terms are mostly up there with RealAir, if not in systems

If you buy everything, that works out at a shade over $10 an aircraft, or a shade under $20 an aircraft if you only use the full fat ones.  For comparison, Carendao's recent releases vary between $30 and $50 (depending on complexity), for aircraft of substantially inferior fidelity, even their 2008 T-34 still retails for $20, and they certainly don't go on sale as regularly or as deeply as DCS products.  If you want similar level of quality products in FSX/P3D you are looking at $50 (A2A C172) to $70+ (anything by PMDG), with perhaps a 20% off sale if you are lucky.

 

So yes, DCS aircraft are "remarkably inexpensive" if you shop carefully.

[Sesquashtoo 2,846]

I haven't been following sim news for the past few months but I'm really getting tired of dealing with FSX, but I'm not sure which route I want to go with. Most comparison videos and articles are many months if not years old, and I'd like to know how the most recent versions of P3D and X-Plane compare against each other. Since this topic includes both P3D and XP, I didn't know where to place this thread, but please move this to a more appropriate setting if need be (talking to mods).

 

I see that both have come a very long way since FSX. The cockpit shadows add for a much more immerse experience and it seems both have much better FPS and stability over FSX. I know XP is praised for having sloped runways, bird strikes, and great night lighting, but I always hear varying opinions on the flight models. From what I understand, P3D is still FSX, just a much improved version. I believe there still aren't sloped runways by default, is that correct? One of my main concerns about switching from FSX is the real-time weather. Do either of the two offer any free real weather support? Or is something like Active Sky a must? Also have there been any significant updates to either games over the past year that make the old comparisons obsolete? Like I said, every comparison I find is almost a year old at this point. I'd love to hear what you guys think about these 2 in their current state and which you prefer.

Well...as Tony said just above me...you need to take some time to make XP.4x personally, your own.  BTW...here is 'my personal flavor' of XP.4x  This is what you can load it up with...grab a beer...and take the three hours to enjoy my installation tour...lol:

 

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SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ORPak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Pacific Island Pak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PADL_Dillingham_AK/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PADU_Unalaska_Dutch_Harbor_AK/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PAKN King Salmon Airport, Alaska/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PAMR/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PAPG_Petersburg James A. Johnson Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Pennsylvania/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Phoenix - KPHX/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/PMDY Henderson Field/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Bush 01/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Bush 02/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Bush 03/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Bush 04/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Bush 05/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CSD4 Mont-Laurier/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CSG3 Joliette/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CSM5 St-Michel Des Saints/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CSY4 St Donat/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CTP3 Barrage Gouin/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CYLQ La Tuque/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CYMW Maniwaki/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec CYRQ Trois-Rivieres/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Landmark Beaupre/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Misc Apt 03/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Misc Apt 04/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Misc Apt 05/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Quebec Outaouais/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/S10 Lake Chelan Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/S31 Lopez Island Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/S35 Okanogan Legion Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/S52 Methow Valley State/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Salt Lake City, UT - KSLC/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SaltLake/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Sault Ste. Marie__CYAM/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SLLP/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Solomon Island Pak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/St_Louis/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SUAG/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SwitzerlandPak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SydneySceneryBeta4.0.1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Toronto Island Airport v1.5.1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Truscenery - EFIK Airport 0.9/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/UGSB Batumi/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/UHPB Burevestnik/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/US Mountain Air 2NC0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/US_Martha Lake Airport_S13/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_PAED_Elmendorf AFB v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_PALH_Lake Hood/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_PANC_Ted Stevens Anchorage Intl Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_Z-41_Lake Hood Strip/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KDTS_Destin-Fort Walton Beach Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KECP_Northwest Florida Beaches Intl Airport Panama City v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KNPA_NAS_Pensacola Forrest Sherman Field v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KNQX_NAS Key West Boca Chica Field II v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KNQX_NAS Key West Boca Chica Field v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_FL_KVPS_Eglin AFB-Northwest Florida Rgnl v 2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_HAWAII_PHKO_Kona Intl Airport at Keahole v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_HAWAII_PHTO_Hilo Intl v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_KAUAI_PAK_Port Allen Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_KAUAI_PHLI_Lihue Airport v 2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_MAUI_PHHN_Hana Maui Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_MAUI_PHJH_Kapalua West Maui Airport Lahaina v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_MAUI_PHOG_Kahului Intl Airport v 3.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_MOLOKAI_PHMK_Molokai Airport v1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_NPS_Ford Island NALF Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHDH_Dillingham Airfield v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHHI_Wheeler_AAF v1.3/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHJR_Barbers Point USCG v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHNG_Kaneohe MCBH v 2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHNL_Honolulu Intl III v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_HI_OAHU_PHNL_Honolulu Intl v2.1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KAEX_Alexandria Intl Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KBTR_Baton Rouge Metropolitan Airport 2nd edition v2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KHZR_False River Regional Airport v 2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KLCH_Lake Charles Regional Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KLFT_Lafayette Regional Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KMSY_New Orleans Louis Armstrong Intl Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KNBG_NAS Joint Reserve Base New Orleans v 2.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KNEW_Lakefront Airport New Orleans v 1.1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_LA_KSHV_Shreveport Rgnl Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_MS_KBIX_Keesler AFB/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_MS_KGPT_Gulfport-Biloxi Intl Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_NJ_KEWR_Newark Liberty Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_NY_JKFK_New York John F. Kennedy Intl Airport v 1.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_TX_KIAH_Houston George Bush Intctl Airport v1.4/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Vanuatu/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/vermillion bay/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Vermont/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/VOZ/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/VTBS_Bangkok_2008_Tic/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/W01 Tonasket Municipal Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/W04 Ocean Shores Municipal Airport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/W95/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Western Pacific Islands Pak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Williams_Lake_CYWL/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/WN88 Martin Ocean Park WA 120/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/WyomingPak/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Design - LPPT Lisboa v1.1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane 9/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/YBCS/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/YDPO-Devonport/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FAJS/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSAN - San Diego/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSAN - San Diego Intl/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSFO - San Francisco/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSFO - Traffic Golden Gate Bridge/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSFO - Traffic Oakland Bay Bridge/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Airports_1xp/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Airports_2xp/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/EnhancedRunwaysHD_by_FlyJSim_v1.20/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Terrain/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Wide Taxiway Markings Library Replacement/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/carrier add on/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/wx2xp_shrubs_forests_stub/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_world-models/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/facades/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/flags_of_the_world/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Vehicle Library Extension/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Europe_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/R2_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/RD_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ruscenery/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ff_library_extended_LOD/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/The_Handy_Objects_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Waves_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zCanada CYTZ Toronto Island ON/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/z+25-081_USA_Miami_bc17/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_new_zealand/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_new_zealand_overlay/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_Treelines_Farms_Europe_v2/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_Treelines_Farms_North_America_v2/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_France_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Germany_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Greece_hd/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Monaco_hd/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Norway_hd/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Great-Britain_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Portugal_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Spain_ihd/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Switzerland_hd/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Asia_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Central-America_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Australia-Oceania_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Austria_osm/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Canada_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_Italy_osm/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_South-America_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_US-Midwest_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_US-Northeast_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_US-Pacific_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_US-South_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/w2xp_US-West_osm-ag/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ZYTZ Terrain/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_PAWD_Orthophoto/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KLAX - Los Angeles Orthophotos/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KOTH - North Bend Regional Airport - Ortho/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/YPAD Adelaide Airport Photoreal/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/YSSY Sydney Airport Photo Scenery/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_uhd_global_scenery1/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_hd_global_scenery_v3/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/USA_AK_PAWD_Terrain_mesh/

....and there is a TON more...if you have the need, and hard disk space, lol!

 

Cheers!

 

Mitch

Edited June 17, 2015 by n4gix
Added the spoiler tag to reduce length.

[iPetroSS 1]

XP10 looks totally promising, and with a few addon it can become as eye-candy as P3D 2.5.

[bonchie 2,305]

It depends on what you want.

XPlane can be made to look really, really good if you put in the work. But you have to ask yourself if you can live without a FSX/P3D with addons level of fidelity in your sim (AI, ATC, Weather, etc.) while also having a ton of work to do to populate the world (unless you are simply ok with the "plausible world" and no airport buildings). There are also other quirks to be aware of. If you are ok with them, XPlane is great. If you aren't, you'll be frustrated by it. 

 

I'm using P3D 2.5 right now. If you have a good graphics card (780 or 970-higher), you can enjoy a lot of really nice eye-candy that didn't exist in FSX while still keeping all the great fidelity you had with FSX. 

 

For me, with a 2500k and a GTX 970, I get better performance in P3D2.5 then FSX DX10 and I've got the eye-candy cranked (terrain, cloud, VC shadows, high water, HDR, etc.)

 

P3D does look like crap at night though, so be aware. Not so much the ground but the clouds have this white glow no matter what you do. It looks silly.

[stretch045 0]

What is the GNS430/530 situation for both sims. I don't believe RXP is compatible with P3D and in XP9 I remember there was that stupid basic FMS in all planes. Have they both both accurately simulated the GPS's with the flightplan functionality??

 

What about the weather engine in XP10. Is the real world weather comparible to what I get with Active Sky Next and Rex??

 

What about scenery?? is there anything for Xplane that compares to ORBX??

[LAdamson 240]

What about scenery?? is there anything for Xplane that compares to ORBX??

 

 

For starters, I think Orbx is great stuff. I really got into it, after buying a new computer setup last December.  I enjoy flying throughout the mountain west, and having the detailed Orbx look, for so much of it. 

 

X-Plane portrays the mountains very well. Sharper than FSX ( I don't have P3D).  I've found that I prefer the Orbx look, when flying across smaller rural town areas, as X-Plane textures get too repetitive, and lack the richness of color.

 

But to answer the question.  I own Orbx Jenea Alaska. One evening I downloaded some (X-Plane 10) freeware airport scenery for Jenea Alaska by "Mr. X" (available at the org.).  It was sunset, and the weather was on the cold gloomier side, with grey skies. I was just blown away by the effect of it all!  The scenery is excellent, and easily compares to some of the best payware. Mr. X has developed quite a few airports for X-Plane. When I take the looks of the whole scene together, which includes the X-Plane mountain background, the X-Plane water, and this very well crafted airport................then X-Plane wins here.  With a high powered system, XP10 water is some of the best I've seen. Especially the reflections, when run with a good setup. Apparently they don't do so well with some systems. 

 

Definitely  worth running both sims, as I've done for years. Might even try P3D someday.