The NGX is a vas hog because of the textures.

 

But it's not any one thing - it's a combination of everything.

 

Multiple cloud layers from ASN /OPUS can do it, AG/textures from addon airports

 

Anytime you fly a flight and switch to another HQ aircraft you should reboot FSX / P3D

Maybe the PMDG 737NGX is one of those "BS" planes that Nick was talking about? :wink:

Oh Christopher... you're so naughty .... I did try the recommended settings. Went back to my locked 25 FPS immediately and am very happy

I have no use for NickN's bible and frankly don't understand why he has so many 'followers'. His sim is quite different from the usual sim (using mainly default stuff and GEX) which already should render his information useless for 95% of the simmers. Also, quite a few settings are purely subjective preferences. For instance, he loses me completely when he dismisses HDR (calling it silly). And no object or other shadows? I love those shadows! Besides, you also have to follow his system setup guide which comes with a lot of totally useless and over the top tweaks that I have never found any use for (yes, I did try his guides in the past a few times).

 

Nevertheless, he's a nice guy and it obviously is great he spends so much time helping others. But someone who calls his own guide a bible, should always be taken with a pinch of salt. ^_^ (I'm sure he also takes himself with a pinch of salt so no problems there LOL )

Strangely enough, I have HDR lighting switched OFF in P3D, and shadows are restricted to user plane (internal and external), and clouds. Mind you, I generally fly with clear skies, so even the cloud shadows are effectively disabled for most of my flights!

Though I personally found no value in his guide, he is to be commended for trying to help while exposing himself to the variation of opinion that is the internet.

I have no use for NickN's bible and frankly don't understand why he has so many 'followers'. His sim is quite different from the usual sim (using mainly default stuff and GEX) which already should render his information useless for 95% of the simmers. Also, quite a few settings are purely subjective preferences. For instance, he loses me completely when he dismisses HDR (calling it silly). And no object or other shadows? I love those shadows! Besides, you also have to follow his system setup guide which comes with a lot of totally useless and over the top tweaks that I have never found any use for (yes, I did try his guides in the past a few times).

 

Nevertheless, he's a nice guy and it obviously is great he spends so much time helping others. But someone who calls his own guide a bible, should always be taken with a pinch of salt. ^_^ (I'm sure he also takes himself with a pinch of salt so no problems there LOL )

 

Yes I agree...

I agree with him on HDR. I fly with it off as it looks much more realistic on my setup. 

Unlike FSX I find P3D will run very well without any tweaking.

 

If someone has a problem with P3D it is most likely to be their system at fault not the software. So rather than trying to tweak the software to fix something that isn't broken - why not go back to check their PC hardware and potential software conflicts from other programs. This happened to me and after blaming P3D for months I realised I really needed to upgrade my GPU. Now P3D runs beautifully - all solved  by a new £99 GPU.

 

PS: I also fly with HDR ticked off. Just makes the sim look like a cartoon. NOT realistic at all IMO. And I gain back a good few FPS!

I think TBM is TextureBandwidthMult.

 

For the record, I agree with TrafficPilot. P3D really doesn't need tweaking in any shape or form. It runs beautifully on my PC with no tweaks whatsoever.

I had to give it a go with Nicks tuning tips, of course and I dont have my system optimized according to his bible. And, I'm pretty sure, I fall into his catagory of 'for BS over the top scenery' ánd I've got 2 complete views running, one for my main view and one with a VC panel view, on my panel monitor.

 

I was able to max out pretty much everything Nick doesnt advise to  turn off, I was able to turn on traffic (which I couldnt do before, concerning my FPS), I was able to turn on a third cloud layer ánd I've got 5-6fps improvement (which would be 10-12fps on a system with a more regular monitor setup).

 

When I just changed the settings, it looked like my performance would drop by quite a bit, but as soon as I turned off hyper threading, it seemed like I had a complete system upgrade! It's really amazing what Nicks advise improved my system.

And I dont notice any abnormal texture behaviour in my sim, or any flaws.

I agree with him on HDR. I fly with it off as it looks much more realistic on my setup.

I agreed with you Robert until this thread from late March http://forum.avsim.net/topic/465890-p3d-hdr-brightness-mod-bright-daytime-and-dark-night/

 

I now find these HDR settings to look the most realistic I have seen (definitely FAR from "SILLY" )

 

Thank you Mike Iacovetta and Rob A. for your work !!!

In his original FSX bible, some of his information was ok, but it was such a long read it could have been condensed down to a couple pages or so. It felt like someone was writing a research paper without editing, and then decided they missed the 500,000 word quota so needed to add another 20 pages of filler.

 

The only way to tweak is to experiment with the settings yourself, run Nvidia Inspector, edit the config, etc...

I agree with him on HDR. I fly with it off as it looks much more realistic on my setup. 

 +1

 

I turned it off finally and just use Reshader/SweetFX to get the lighting how I want it with a much better look than HDR without any cost of performance.

 

I am happy for all of you that found his guide worthless.  That means you already had your sim setup properly or don't mind any problems you may still have.  Thanks for letting us know your opinion on the usefulness of his guide.

 

For those of us that it does actually help immensely, I am happy for us as well.  The guide was valuable, quick, easy and to the brutal honest point.  Worked like a charm.   I don't expect I'll be worshiping at Nick's feet like he's the Messiah of Simulation though and to be fair, he does say those settings are a starting point and not his gospel.  His post settings actually weren't right for me but it got me started in the right direction.  

I have no use for NickN's bible and frankly don't understand why he has so many 'followers'.

 

I have no choice but to agree...

He says HDR is 'silly', which in itself is something silly to say, would have been better NOT to recommend it, but 'silly' is a silly word in this case.

He switches off all shadows, which means he is flying a kind of old FSX, according to his own taste, but tries to leave out the best features of the sim, and that's where the 'silly' word would have a practical meaning....

 

Later on he is bashing P3D (in general) and praises FSX-SE, which in itself makes the entire and absolutely simplified 'guide' rather subjective.

 

There are folks here (and elsewhere) who spent much longer time trying to tweak P3D than he has, or getting the max out of it, thus Nick's truly subjective few lines are truly not the best way to get the best performance out of the sim...

 

Potroh

Any type of luminosity or contrast adjustments can be nice if it works as expected, never used P3D yet (plan to just haven't had a chance). I have never tried HDR adjustments, but interesting indeed.

 

Have any of you compared SweetFX (not SweetFSX) vs HDR vs ENB?

I haven't tried any of them in FSX yet, all I did was make my own global adjustments to green mostly.

 

When I was using Orbx stuff, I found the best thing possible was to crank the green saturation and luminance way up because their default color is just too bland (CRM and NCAL are two examples), unrealistically so. Sure sometimes in those areas the color in real life does get that bland during periods of low rainfall, but don't we always want to fly over an area that is at its peak green time of year (or close to it).

I think the best Orbx textures for color and contrast are still Alaska, and maybe Scotland (or was it Ireland, I forget which).

Anyhow, NCAL looks ok but the green needs to be greener, give me some more SAT or LUM.

 

Sorry to off-post...