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This is the Feelthere (not Carenado!) Embraer Phenom 100.    A fantastic, under-rated biz jet, with far better systems than the newer Carenado offering (working FLC, etc).

 

Blasting out of FlyTampa Vienna, on a rainy Tuesday morning  :smile:

 

 

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Beautiful pics! And the feelthere Phenom is surely better than the Carenado jet releases!

May I ask you, which cloud textures we can see in these amazing shots?

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Beautiful pics! And the feelthere Phenom is surely better than the Carenado jet releases!

May I ask you, which cloud textures we can see in these amazing shots?

 

Thank you Michael!

 

The clouds are from REX4 Texture Direct, and are Set 01 for the Mid/High Level Clouds, and Set 01 for the Low Level Clouds too. :smile:

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Thank you Michael!

 

The clouds are from REX4 Texture Direct, and are Set 01 for the Mid/High Level Clouds, and Set 01 for the Low Level Clouds too. :smile:

Thanks a lot! Even though I use REX soft clouds at the moment, I might, as an owner of REX 4 texture direct, want to give these clouds a try! ;-)

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Thanks a lot! Even though I use REX soft clouds at the moment, I might, as an owner of REX 4 texture direct, want to give these clouds a try! ;-)

 

I've tried many other texture sets for REX4, but I always come back to the Set 01 packages.  I find them pretty unbeatable.

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Craig,
how do you rate this aircraft compared to the same benchmarks (A2A, RealAir etc.)? How are systems (electrical, pneumatic, hydraulic, pressurization) modeled? How is avionics?

I was always interested to the Phenom, but kept away from Carenado's version and also wondered why the Feelthere's bird apparently received so little attention. There are not so many reviews out there.

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I can confirm what you said about the Feelthere Phenom, Craig. Start from cold and dark in the Carenado and within seconds you are up and away. Try that in the Feelthere and all hell brakes loose

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Craig, Great shots of a most underrated business jet, as others have said it is much better than the Carenado product

 

The built in Goflight drivers and key mapping are something other Devs could learn from as well.

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Craig,

how do you rate this aircraft compared to the same benchmarks (A2A, RealAir etc.)? How are systems (electrical, pneumatic, hydraulic, pressurization) modeled? How is avionics?

 

I was always interested to the Phenom, but kept away from Carenado's version and also wondered why the Feelthere's bird apparently received so little attention. There are not so many reviews out there.

 

I would say I rate it similarly to how I'd rate most of Feelthere's decent aircraft;  in that the systems are really strong (not quite PMDG but a nautical mile ahead of Carenado), sound is always excellent (specific switch sounds etc - again a weak area for Carenado) and generally good immersion.    Texturing and modelling is always adequate to quite good, but certainly not class-leading.   Oh and some of feelthere's aircraft (such as the Phenom and the ERJ v2) have fantastic FDE and hand flying characteristics.

 

If you buy it and immediately judge it against Carenado's, purely on VC texturing, you'd be disappointed.  But by the time you got to systems, sounds, and FDE, I reckon you'd be pleased.

 

saying all that, most of feelthere's jets have really good FMCs and integrated avionics.  This aircraft obviously has a G1000 based system and to be completely honest, it's not the best out there.   Not to Flight 1 levels, but again, better than Carenado's IMHO.

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No Navigraph integration, correct?

 

Correct.  Their other products are navigraph updateable, but the G1000 in this aircraft isn't navigraph updateable.

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Correct.  Their other products are navigraph updateable, but the G1000 in this aircraft isn't navigraph updateable.

 

Thank you very much, Craig.

I am pretty puzzled at the moment. I have your opinion in high regard, on the other side I wonder how and why your evaluation matches so little other respectable reviews, for example Mutley Hangar's, who conversely released a pretty enthustiastic review about the Carenado's model.

 

For different reasons I am considering both and not being fully convinced of neither of them. I will probably pass on for the moment.

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Thank you very much, Craig.

I am pretty puzzled at the moment. I have your opinion in high regard, on the other side I wonder how and why your evaluation matches so little other respectable reviews, for example Mutley Hangar's, who conversely released a pretty enthustiastic review about the Carenado's model.

 

For different reasons I am considering both and not being fully convinced of neither of them. I will probably pass on for the moment.

 

No problem. :smile:   Your own intuitive instinct is probably the best guideline to follow, where FS addons are concerned.  Similarly to your concerns, I have seen some addons get glowing reviews from some people, only to buy them and be disappointed.  And sometimes it works the other way;  a product get's some poor reviews but you think "oh what the heck", and then really like it!

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Basically the Feelthere Phenoms systems work correctly, the Carenado's on the other hand are a work of fiction, depends on where your interests lie which one you will prefer.

 

My vote would always be the Feelthere Phenom.

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Basically the Feelthere Phenoms systems work correctly, the Carenado's on the other hand are a work of fiction, depends on where your interests lie which one you will prefer.

 

My vote would always be the Feelthere Phenom.

 

Thank you Glynn.

My interest lies in the aircraft with the most complete systems possible among the viable options. This is why reviews from direct owners like you and Craig are highly appreciated.

 

In general, my preference leans toward Feelthere. I know more or less what I can expect from Carenado, having several aircraft by them, but I am not entirely convinced by Feelthere either. The better option is pretty obsolete today (was released end of 2011), the newer one lacks some basic features, as usual. This is why i am still on the fence. For the moment, I think I will simply pass on and save my money for the next bizjet (Eaglesoft Citation XLS+ being a strong candidate, based on what I read so far). Meanwhile, I am enjoying the Hawker in Bert's sauce. Not perfect, yet it tastes very good :-)

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Hey 'owl,

 

I don't know if you've had a look but there are some pretty good videos of the Feelthere Phenom, on YouTube - so you can look at systems, sounds, etc, in action.


Too early to leave Vienna, Eurovision has barely started. ;-)

 

Very true!   (It's a guilty pleasure of mine :smile:)  Great to see that Australia are competing in this year's too (as a one-off to celebrate Eurovision's 60th year).

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A guilty pleasure for me too... Our house is super excited about Aussie talent mixing it with Europe's finest. Also enjoying the Austrians having fun with Australia.

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A guilty pleasure for me too... Our house is super excited about Aussie talent mixing it with Europe's finest. Also enjoying the Austrians having fun with Australia.

 

 

If you're really keen, it's the second semi-final this evening, on BBC3 (not sure if you get that in Oz, or what time it'd be on there, but it's on at 20:00 GMT). :smile:

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If you're really keen, it's the second semi-final this evening, on BBC3 (not sure if you get that in Oz, or what time it'd be on there, but it's on at 20:00 GMT). :smile:

5am... We're getting up to watch live on Sunday morning.

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