The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back

[CFIJose 5,485]

I recently posted the release of YSSY in the FTX compatibility forum, only to watch it disappear.

 

I also received a PM from one of the developers reminding me that they do not allow a "free marketing ride" off the backs of their hard work.

 

That incident combined with JV labeling me as a troll when I complained that I could not download my purchased scenery is enough for me to conclude that I'm a nonentity as a customer.

 

So bye, bye miss American pie.

 

Jose

[mwilk 1,106]

I could understand their displeasure if Fly Tampa's YSSY was competing directly with their scenery. It compliments it instead. Sometimes stupid never sleeps.

[louisdecoolste 12]

Precisely why such forums as this are needed.

 

Just like several other developers who think they are too good for the likes of us, here we can agree they probably are.  :(

[zmak 331]

LOL my Fly Tampa Sydney thread was also blocked. I made it intentionally vague..just FT Sydney released...no links or anything

 

Normally I wouldn't bother but its such an important airport for ORBX Australia region .  IMO FT Sydney would only enhance ORBX Australia and create more sales

[CFIJose 5,485]

As soon as FTX decided to create a Global FSX addon (FTXG & Vectors) the game changed. Every add-on airport anyone buys will have to be tested with FTXG & Vectors.

[pmb 5,137]

Shouldn't it be possible to resolve cases likes this one by a FRIENDLY PM via the ORBX forum mail system to the onles like Ed Correia, Tim Harries or Holger Sandmann? While JV may act a bit harsh sometimes indeed, these are people you can talk to. This is clearly a case of non-competition as ORBX explicitly stated they are not into big airports like this one and, as several stated above, it complements their AUS region in the same was as KSEA complements their PNW, which was allowed to discuss.

 

I usually try to resolve cases like this one in a friendly way. Doesn't work always, but often.

 

Kind regards, Michael

[1st fltsimguy 466]

The older I get the less my patience seems to be with challenges.

 

I have adopted an approach that is to never react in the same day I have some sort of issue, I sleep on it at least a day.  I find that I can rationalize better and often remind myself there are much more important things in life that this or that issue. I just had a totally unrelated issue yesterday and this morning have just chosen to ignore it, the person involved is not worth me wasting my time nor emotion worrying about it.

 

I personally would let it go, really who cares...Jose, while I appreciate receiving your heads up on items, most of us are aware of the releases because we care to check regularly anyway.

[pete_auau 1,154]

strange  that  since  there are still post being  made   on the ftx  forum  about  tampa  Sydney  issues  on if  it  works  with orbx  au   suppose its abit like  posting  in the pmdg forum  saying  that  a new ifly  product  has been released

[DavidP 1,408]

I don't really see the point of a "heads up" post anyway - as previously posted, most simmers will be well aware within 24 hrs. Is it an attention seeking thing or something?

[zmak 331]

I don't really see the point of a "heads up" post anyway - as previously posted, most simmers will be well aware within 24 hrs. Is it an attention seeking thing or something?

Dont be lazy and take the time time to think before making a Dumb post. How would everyone know within 24 hours without some "attention seeker' taking the the time to share with the community? What is the downside of discussing a new release?

 

Bizarre

[pete_auau 1,154]

Dont be lazy and take the time time to think before making a Dumb post. How would everyone know within 24 hours without some "attention seeker' taking the the time to share with the community? What is the downside of discussing a new release?

 

Bizarre

 

So you being  a Dev  be happy  that a competing addons  is being  discussed on your forum,  it might be  a different  story if  you got some issues  and wanting  some  help

[CFIJose 5,485]

I don't really see the point of a "heads up" post anyway - as previously posted, most simmers will be well aware within 24 hrs. Is it an attention seeking thing or something?

You need to read my original post again. This has nothing to do with promoting YSSY. It has to do with compatibility in a "compatibility forum" for an addon that many simmers have been waiting for years to be released.

So you being  a Dev  be happy  that a competing addons  is being  discussed on your forum,  it might be  a different  story if  you got some issues  and wanting  some  help

Pete,

 

Most developers don't have a global product or a "Compatibility Forum." FTXG + Vectors & they even have a dedicated "AU Region." I have all those addons and the purpose of the thread was to let everyone know that YSSY was finally here. Now let's make sure that it is compatible with FTX global addon or AU Region.

 

I created the KSEA thread. That thread lead the way to making KSEA compatible with FTX PNW. If that thread would have been deleted, who knows if T2G would have ever received the files that they needed.

 

This is a very small community and devs need to work together. Especially FTX, IMO, who wants their base global scenery in as many simmers hands as possible.

 

I still think that ORBX is a great addon developer for FSX, but I also must conclude they are "arrogant." and.......

 

That will not work long term!

[sauviat 137]

Professionally, if I gave a 'heads up' on something coming into/onto the market, it would be deemed as solicitation and would be illegal. There are avenues for such notifications, including the press and it is not as if a multi billion dollar crime would be committed by having to wait 24 hours or so! However, the OP has provided a service, but the response he received was a bit OTT.

[pete_auau 1,154]

You need to read my original post again. This has nothing to do with promoting YSSY. It has to do with compatibility in a "compatibility forum" for an addon that many simmers have been waiting for years to be released.

 

Pete,

 

Most developers don't have a global product or a "Compatibility Forum." FTXG + Vectors & they even have a dedicated "AU Region." I have all those addons and the purpose of the thread was to let everyone know that YSSY was finally here. Now let's make sure that it is compatible with FTX global addon or AU Region.

 

I created the KSEA thread. That thread lead the way to making KSEA compatible with FTX PNW. If that thread would have been deleted, who knows if T2G would have ever received the files that they needed.

 

This is a very small community and devs need to work together. Especially FTX, IMO, who wants their base global scenery in as many simmers hands as possible.

 

I still think that ORBX is a great addon developer for FSX, but I also must conclude they are "arrogant." and.......

 

That will not work long term!

I can see your point,   but  if  you post  with issues  than it  shouldn't  be   a  issue in posting  for  support in the orbx  as long it  done  in a civil manner of  course.  I never had any issues  about  posting  in the orbx   forums

[brucewtb 247]

I suspect the Orbx sensibility re FT's YSSY (as a opposed to T2G's KSEA) is that in the early days it was on their to do list after YMML and YBBN but in the end decided it was too hard.  Now low and behold FT comes along and produces an excellent YSSY with minimal framerate hit that does indeed complement Orbx very well.

 

Bruceb