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What kind of P3D performance should we expect with Skylake (next Intel flagship CPU)

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I wouldn't hold my breath for this release until new CPU proves its superior OC capability. Your i2500, properly OC-ed though, still can show its power 

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I'm still on the good old 2500K OC to 4.8ghz and I won't be getting a new one until I see massive difference in price and power. 

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Doesn't look like a big leap forward. They mostly upgraded the built in GPU. We will have to wait and see how this new architecture reacts to OCing, maybe it remains cooler? Looks to me as if semiconductor tech really has reached the peak of its possibilities.

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I'm still on the good old 2500K OC to 4.8ghz and I won't be getting a new one until I see massive difference in price and power. 

 

Thats a big OC with your 2500K, what kind of cooling are you using? 

 

Will be looking to see what kind of overclock can be done with skylake.

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RE: the test results. Everyone wants to be first with their benchmarks. I want to see some benchmarks from some of the members here when it is released. What chipset drivers were they using? I also see in the link that the benchmarks have been taken down from the Internet but this site wants to show probably false testing anyway.

 

I'm going to wait until the end of August. Still upgrading in any case to Skylake unless later tests/information definitely show no improvements.

 

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I'd say not so much better, unfortunately CPU's are developing in the direction of lower power consumption, workload spread over many cores and clocks barely moving up at all. These are good developments for modern OS'es and software/games but for ageing legacy software like FSX and P3Dv2 -which are still very much single-core and high IPC dependent- it's the opposite of what we need. Hopefully someone will develop a modern flightsim, built from the ground up for modern hardware and not some fantasy 6+GHz monster that will never exist.

if you're still on Sandy Bridge, the cummulative IPC improvements might add up enough to make a noticable improvement, *provided* you can actually overclock Skylake to anywhere near the same clock speed as your current SB.

 

Personally I'd just stick with the SB until it's worn out (can't hold the OC any more).

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My SB 2500k is overclocked to 4.5 GHZ, a 15-20% increment would be an improvement, but would it be worth all the extra cost? You will have to replace --

 

Motherboard

CPU

Ram

 

Thats going to be at least $600-700

 

For new hardware looking for at least a 40-50% improvement.

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2700K OC @ 4.6 here. Not sure I'll be upgrading this beast of a chip in the forseeable future. Short of upgrading to hex or octo chip, the law of diminishing returns exist with intel chips going forward, particularly with our hobby. As someone mentioned before, Intel is all about efficiency and power saving. I read awhile back that Intel is having a more difficult time controlling heat dissipation with 22nm and beyond, so this could affect OC in the long run. That is the extent of my knowledge on the subject.

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I think that Skylake won't deliver a huger performance increase. However once DX12 is released, we should see some more GPU utilisation.

 

Also I think for more performance improvements P3D would need to be able to utilise all cores more. As right now most of the load is on core 0.

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If fsx/p3d is so cpu Hz dependent, how about a $70 G3258? People are achieving over 4.5 ghz on this chip.

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If fsx/p3d is so cpu Hz dependent, how about a $70 G3258? People are achieving over 4.5 ghz on this chip.

 

If you're on a very tight budget maybe. It's only dual-core and no HT so blurries might be a problem in P3D. You'll want quad-core for P3D.

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However once DX12 is released, we should see some more GPU utilisation.

Not until P3D supports DX12, I suppose, which might take some time...

Not until P3D supports DX12, I suppose, which might take some time...

 

Yes you're right, I had that info in there but then I accidentally closed avsim and forgot to add it again.

 

There won't be any improvements until P3D supports DX12

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