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Michael Moe

P3D,Windows 10, and image

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Hi.

 

Seems like W10 is going to be a strong platform over time but can we still take image of our Windows 7 and recover if we want to try it out?

 

Thanks Michael Moe

Hi.

 

Seems like W10 is going to be a strong platform over time but can we still take image of our Windows 7 setup and recover if we want to try it out?

 

Thanks Michael Moe

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Of course you can. I have installed WIN10 BETA on two test PC.s and it installs WIN10 and keeps a copy of my old WIN-OS (IF I told the istaller to keep my old OS). When I start my computer I get a question about WHICH OS I want to start. Same thing as it has been for many years, you can have several OS;s on the same computer.

 

Jack

the Swede in Spain

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Thanks, but i am not interested in having 2 OS on my computer hence i just want to have the oportunity to go back

 

Michael Moe

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Thanks Richard.

 

But lets say i format my OS drive after a Windows 10 if its even possible. Because i have a dedicated drive for image of my current setup. My P3D drive and OS drive is therefor imaged on a separat drive for recover

 

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I think you will have decide on one ot the other - for me its windows 10 life moves on

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Thanks Richard.

 

But lets say i format my OS drive after a Windows 10 if its even possible. Because i have a dedicated drive for image of my current setup. My P3D drive and OS drive is therefor imaged on a separat drive for recover

 

Thanks Michael Moe

You are good to go...you do not have to format anything.  Use your Emergency Disk, (or create one, if you have not already).  Place that in your CD tray and start the computer. It will read in all the basic files to run a minimal DOS setup, with menus for you to recover from an Image.  Make sure you have the hard drive on, where the the W7.x image is stored.  It must be an eternal, or external, running off of the USB hub.  It will then find all your Window Back-Up's...and allow you to pick the image you wish to reintroduce onto your computer. 

 

That's it...it will overwrite every sector on your O.S. hard drive, with the system image you created, as well as any other hard drive in your system that was included in the image back-up. If it is W7(x)...then in about 1-5 hours, depending on the size of your image, you will have your entire W7 (all the programs on the system).  It will be as though you never upgraded past W7.

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Thanks but last time i recovered from a disc i was almost not succesful because the language of Windows7 was changed with vistalzator. Meening you could have a problem with language if you want to recover. Thankfully i was able to recover my setup because i could return to Windows 7 and reset my original language before running the image disc.

 

Well i hope also Windows 10 is the way forward offcause.

 

Michael Moe

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You can use software such as EaseUS Todo Backup or Acronis TrueImage to make a full backup of your system before you upgrade. I like this method better than recovery disks, because as you say, the built-in Windows recovery can fail for various reasons. A full backup is more reliable, and you can also restore individual files and folders.

 

I will perform a clean install of Win10 (my Win7 install is over 2.5 years old), but I will definitely keep a full backup around for a long time, in case I need to restore or just get some small file or registry setting or whatever from the backup.

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When upgrading to Windows 10 you have 30 days to revert back to your previous OS.. After 30 days the key to your previous OS is invalidated with that OS and permanently attached to Windows 10.  There is a "Revert back" in the settings of Windows 10 (don't delete Windows.old).  So you can try it if you want..

 

Windows 10 after updating creates a hardware hash and stores it on MS servers.. So if you need to do a fresh install of Windows 10 if you want to format etc (create the USB media with the creation tool MS provides), reinstall, skip entering a key, and Windows 10 will auto activate itself via the hardware hash.  ie: Windows 10 will know you're reinstalling on a previously activated PC and reactivate it accordingly.

 

If you upgrade your MOBO and it doesn't reactivate.. Same process as before.. Call MS and they will square you away (MS are actually good with that)

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If you own P3D you might want to hold off on 'upgrading' to Windows 10.  I did a clean install of 10 and installed the latest version of P3D.  Unfortunately i cannot get past the activation screen without it crashing IPLib32.dll.  I have logged with P3D, but they don't appear to support WIndows 10 yet.  I wish i had stayed on 7, didn't have any issues with that.

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Can anyone else confirm this - if thats the case I will wait to do a fresh install of OS - and definitely not uninstall P3D - thanks for the heads up

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I did a clean install of Win 10 Preview (can't remember which version as there has been so many) over Windows 7 Ultimate a month or so ago followed by a clean install of P3D with no problems (remember to uninstall P3D first or you cant reactivate it). Have since updated to Win 10 Pro RTM and P3D, ASN, OPUS, PMDG737/777 etc still working. 

 

Just make an image of the relevant partitions before hand using the built in Win 7 or 8 imaging tool. As explained above, you can also roll back to previous windows install.

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I did a clean install of Win 10 Preview (can't remember which version as there has been so many) over Windows 7 Ultimate a month or so ago followed by a clean install of P3D with no problems (remember to uninstall P3D first or you cant reactivate it). Have since updated to Win 10 Pro RTM and 

 

You have done an update not a fresh install of windows 10 so that doesnt exactly prove out the question - thanks

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You can't avoid doing an install over an existing version of Windows as all Windows 10 free upgrades are just that (otherwise you have to buy a new key). You have to install a version of Windows (7 SP1 or 8) and activate it first. Then you can install windows 10 from an ISO or on line and tell it 'clean install'. It will automatically activate.

 

If you then want to clean reinstall in future, create an ISO from the current installation. The license will allow you to use it on a new machine as long as it is only ever installed on one machine.

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You can't avoid doing an install over an existing version of Windows 

 

I understand all of that - I am running RTM (insider updated 3 times) but as posted in post # 12 he could not install p3d - thats what I am questioning as I have not formatted my ssd and installed my iso yet

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Been using this for years, has saved me a few times too. I have the paid version, which is well worth it. The free version has less features. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

 

I'll second that. I have the paid version.

Saved my b### more than once and works every time. 

Highly recommended.

 

Mark

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To clarify my above points, i am getting an error when attempting to activate P3D, it installs just fine.  The Error is below:

 

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 2.5.12946.0, time stamp: 0x555f2e54
Faulting module name: IP2Lib32.DLL, version: 3.2.0.1, time stamp: 0x51890831
Exception code: 0xc000041d
 
IP2Lib32.dll appears to relate to the license protection system.
 
...and yes this was a new install of both Windows (from 7 to 10) and P3D latest version.  I did uninstall it as per the instructions.
 
I am not sure what to do now, i am thinking about moving back to Windows 7.

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To clarify my above points, i am getting an error when attempting to activate P3D, it installs just fine. The Error is below:

 

Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 2.5.12946.0, time stamp: 0x555f2e54

Faulting module name: IP2Lib32.DLL, version: 3.2.0.1, time stamp: 0x51890831

Exception code: 0xc000041d

 

IP2Lib32.dll appears to relate to the license protection system.

 

...and yes this was a new install of both Windows (from 7 to 10) and P3D latest version. I did uninstall it as per the instructions.

 

I am not sure what to do now, i am thinking about moving back to Windows 7.

you may want to contact Lockheed to reset your activation as I'm sure that's the problem

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you may want to contact Lockheed to reset your activation as I'm sure that's the problem

 

I have posted on LM's forum but there response is that they don't support Windows 10.  They didn't mention it could be the activation limit.

 

I don't think its me exceeding the activation limit, i did remove it the correct way, also i would have thought LM would make the exceeded license limit more meaningful than a crash.

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Further information i hope that some of you may find useful.

 

I was able to get the activation to appear by switching the Prepar3D.exe to Windows XP SP3 compatibility.  I can't get further than that, it appears i have misplaced my activation password.

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Ian,

 

Just to clarify:

 

1.  You wipe clean partition and fresh install of Win10 Pro?

2.  When installing did you "Run As Admin..." for Setup.exe?

3.  Try running regsvr32 on the IP2Lib32.dll see here: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Bb490985.aspx

4.  Make sure Win10 isn't blocking anything (BranchCache via event viewer might be able to expose what's going on but that's Win 10 enterprise only)

5.  EDIT: you're running a legitimate version of P3D (don't be offended, needs to be asked for this type of error)

 

IP2Lib32.dll can detect if you running under Hyper-V, Virtual PC, Parallets, VBox, VMWare, etc. etc. - so if you are this "might" be part of the problem.

 

IP2Lib32 isn't part of VC++ redist

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: are you stand alone or month to month for P3D license?

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Just to clarify:

 

HI Rob,

 

1.Yes, actually an entirely different disk, new partition, completely fresh install.

2. Indeed

3. No i didn't, can try it and report back.

4. It didn't even get to the activiation part, i don't think it was a firewall issue.

5. Not offended at all, it's not running in any of the virtualized technologies.  Again, didn't even get to the activation part, errors on attempting to open.

 

Stand alone. 

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