Prepar3D blue haze

[timest 472]

Hmm dont recall that no biggie Tim - thanks 

Last I remember is that you were on 2 other beta projects and I never heard back since. Contact me on our forum again and let's go from there. 

[Richard Sennett 2,499]

Last I remember is that you were on 2 other beta projects and I never heard back since. Contact me on our forum again and let's go from there. 

 

Super Tim - will do - thank you 

[rparson99 32]

I like the ability to generate weather according to the airport code.  But I wish there was a way to select only those part of the them you want to change...based on the generated selection.  Maybe some selection boxe or such so that I can check those parts that i want to apply to the current theme.  That ould be great!

[timest 472]

I like the ability to generate weather according to the airport code.  But I wish there was a way to select only those part of the them you want to change...based on the generated selection.  Maybe some selection boxe or such so that I can check those parts that i want to apply to the current theme.  That ould be great!

I see you have posted your feedback in our 'suggestion box' on our forum, thank you for that! I hope others follow as it's a great way for our developers to keep track.

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

Looking at my screen caps again this evening, it's interesting to note that in some of the screen shots, you can't even see mountains that, in another screenshot, you can see fairly clearly.  Perhaps this is a clue to why vis has always seemed short and hazy in FSX to me.  Having worked in a tower in the military, years back, I have a pretty good idea as to what a 20 or 30 mile visibility day looks like.  Sometimes I look in FSX and think...lord, it's hazy and I look at the vis and it says 25 or more and I scratch my head.

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

 

 

Hi Gregg,
 
Have you tried restoring your default or previous (REX2/3) sky themes? Apart from sky textures, the "sky_[...].bmp" files in \Prepar3D v2\texture\ also contain a number of pixels that determine light/shadow colors. Perhaps they also determine the fog/haze color? The image here explains the meaning of the pixels for FS9/FSX, but it should be good for P3D as well:  http://www.cat-tamer...ment_pixels.jpg
 
Tym

 

Hi Tym,

 

I was looking at those sky bitmaps and I noticed there are 10 of them for each time of day.  Do you know why there are 10 of them?

[Super Six-Four 5]

Usually in real life the sky horizon is more of a very light neutral color and the landscape horizon definitely more bluish. If you have a blue sky horizon then that effect isn't seen as well and doesn't look as realistic. Even on a gray overcast day the blue horizon mountains really stand out. Check out Rise of Flight to really see it in a sim. I can't seem to replicate that with REX. The closest I have seen in FS are Pablo Diaz's textures and Flight Environment in FS9. I have a chart showing how the colors are assigned on the sky textures, but don't want to go through the hassles of posting (used to be easy). Anyway the bottom two bars are for high and low horizon.

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

Usually in real life the sky horizon is more of a very light neutral color and the landscape horizon definitely more bluish. If you have a blue sky horizon then that effect isn't seen as well and doesn't look as realistic. Even on a gray overcast day the blue horizon mountains really stand out. Check out Rise of Flight to really see it in a sim. I can't seem to replicate that with REX. The closest I have seen in FS are Pablo Diaz's textures and Flight Environment in FS9. I have a chart showing how the colors are assigned on the sky textures, but don't want to go through the hassles of posting (used to be easy). Anyway the bottom two bars are for high and low horizon.

It was already posted further up the thread.

[Super Six-Four 5]

It was already posted further up the thread.

Sorry, how's this:

Usually in real life the sky horizon is more of a very light neutral color and the landscape horizon definitely more bluish. If you have a blue sky horizon then that effect isn't seen as well and doesn't look as realistic. Even on a gray overcast day the blue horizon mountains really stand out. Check out Rise of Flight to really see it in a sim. I can't seem to replicate that with REX. The closest I have seen in FS are Pablo Diaz's textures and Flight Environment in FS9.

[b757 43]

I had the same problem for a while, but I disabled the volumetric fog in P3D and it seemed to fix it. It seems to me to be way overdone. OPUS does a very nice job of adding haze at the horizon, but it's not overdone. I also have REX OD+TD+SC so I know your frustration. As far as I know, it doesn't have anything to do with REX.

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

 

 

I had the same problem for a while, but I disabled the volumetric fog in P3D and it seemed to fix it. It seems to me to be way overdone. OPUS does a very nice job of adding haze at the horizon, but it's not overdone. I also have REX OD+TD+SC so I know your frustration. As far as I know, it doesn't have anything to do with REX.

 

I think it boils down to picking textures that have less haze.  I think they'd do well to create preview images similar to how they did for dusk and dawn so you could see it.  My issue was 1) I didn't know that the sky textures handled haze and 2) I couldn't see it in the preview.  A little education goes a long way.

[Guest tymk]

Hi Gregg

 

Sorry for the late reply, a bit of a time zone difference... :wink:

 

I was looking at those sky bitmaps and I noticed there are 10 of them for each time of day.  Do you know why there are 10 of them?

 

AFAIK, Microsoft originally designed FSX to use a 10-day cycle, with each day using a slightly different sky theme, probably to introduce some more variety. However, most weather texture add-on makers (I've seen it with FTX, REX and freeware) prefer to keep the sky colors consistent, which means they have to make ten identical copies of each texture to work around the "cycle".

 

Tym

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

 

 

AFAIK, Microsoft originally designed FSX to use a 10-day cycle, with each day using a slightly different sky theme, probably to introduce some more variety. However, most weather texture add-on makers (I've seen it with FTX, REX and freeware) prefer to keep the sky colors consistent, which means they have to make ten identical copies of each texture to work around the "cycle".

Tym

 

That makes sense.  Would have been nice if they'd have used the textures for things like "Clear", "Smog", "Rain", etc.