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FSX Vs P3D, how good idea is it?

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Hello Guys, 

 

Well this is the thing, I am currently using MS-FSX+Acceleration, it runs quite well with some tweaks here and there, however, as you may know there is no way to run FSX flawlessly, now I am thinking about buying P3D, so, how good is it vs FSX? I have seen several videos and it looks quite well, but I don't really know since I built a PC especifically for FSX and I am not getting the performace I expected, I have been able to resolve some issues I was having with the valuable help of the people at these forums, I don't want to buy P3D, pay the 200 bucks and then be disappointed with the performace I will get since I have heard it requeires a lot of resources, even more than MS-FSX.

 

My Specs:

 

Mobo: MSI Z97 Gaming 7.

RAM: G. Skill RipJaws X 16Gb @ 1886 Mhz.

FSX Drive: 500Gb Samsung 580 Evo SSD.

Graphics Card: 4Gb MSI GTX 970.

Processor: Intel Core I7 4790K @ 4.4 Ghz

 

Any information you guys can provide me with will be very appreciated.

 

Thanks and regards.

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Tbh man buy the $60 one and try it, if you don't like it you can get a refund.

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Yes, I got my refund. But I want to try it again when the new version comes out.  I like the idea that  it is new and in development so I will always give it a try. 

 

You can also try it by using the 10 dollar a month system. 

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Ok, I think I will give a try with the $10 version and see if it feels better than the MS-FSX, now does it need any extra tweak or does it work just out of the box?

 

It is such a pity PMDG does not give any discounts for active PMDG Products users, that would be great, I guess I will have to buy the PMDG Planes I currently have, again if I like P3D.

 

Regards.

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I am finished with FSX......I will never use it again.....when I finally get my buddy to buy P3D I will remove FSX from my system.

 

Your hardware will run P3D easily.

 

FaxCap

 

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That depends, all systems are different and some guys have great luck with PD3 and it runs fine for them. For me it ran like a dog and FSXSE beat it  in speed and looks. 

 

Try it and see how it runs for you on your system as that is the only way you will really know. 

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I purchased FSX-SE with the last bargain they did, I got it for $12, I think it was about a month ago maybe, I installed it and I did not like it at all, so, I went back to MS-FSX, i don't know what happened, It just did not look good, I was not able to install  the products I use in MS-FSX like Orbx, MindStar GNS and some others.

 

I think my luck could change with P3D, maybe because there are not many differences between MS-FSX and FSX-SE, what do you guys think?

 

Regards.

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Just try out P3D for $10 and see for yourself :smile: It should run very well on your hardware...

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I purchased FSX-SE with the last bargain they did, I got it for $12, I think it was about a month ago maybe, I installed it and I did not like it at all, so, I went back to MS-FSX, i don't know what happened, It just did not look good, I was not able to install  the products I use in MS-FSX like Orbx, MindStar GNS and some others.

That was because you installed FSX:SE in a Side-by-Side configuration. Because of this, none of the FSX installers would work.

 

Had you completely uninstalled FSX first, then installed FSX:SE, those same installers would have worked.

 

In any case, these questions have been asked time and time again here in the P3D forum...

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That was because you installed FSX:SE in a Side-by-Side configuration. Because of this, none of the FSX installers would work.

 

Had you completely uninstalled FSX first, then installed FSX:SE, those same installers would have worked.

 

In any case, these questions have been asked time and time again here in the P3D forum...

 

Yes sir, I did that, I even ran a tool provided by Flight1 Software named Registry Fixer or something like that, it changes something in the registry so that the installers can run, (I was getting an error from Orbx stating there was no simulator installed), after running that tool, the installer ran normally but it never showed up in the new FSX-SE (Scenery textures), but that is not really important right now, I am not using FSX-SE anymore, I am now setting P3D as my new target, I am going to try it and see if it works, I have been told that my machine should run it just fine, without any issues, but well, the same was told about FSX-SE and that is not what happened at all...

 

Now my question for you is, do I need to tweak P3D at all? or will it run smoothly right after installation?

 

Thank you very much for your interest.

 

Best regards.

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Jorge, I run P3Dv2 with no tweaks whatever. As a developer, I need to test my products in a more typical "vanilla" state to ensure they will work well.

 

As for FSX:SE, you still mistake my point. Installed by itself on a system that has never had FSX (disk) installed, or has been properly uninstalled and sanitized, it becomes in effect plain FSX (disk) as far as most installers are concerned.

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Jorge, you have a great system for running FSX, and if it does not run "flawlessly", I do not believe switching to P3D will fix it for you.. you will just have a different set of issues..

 

Try it by all means!

 

But personally, I can see no reason why FSX should not run perfectly on your system, unless you overload it with addons.. :huh:

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Actually, with that hardware, I would fathom P3D will run with significantly less tweaking / issues than FSX.

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Jorge, you have a great system for running FSX, and if it does not run "flawlessly", I do not believe switching to P3D will fix it for you.. you will just have a different set of issues..

 

Try it by all means!

 

But personally, I can see no reason why FSX should not run perfectly on your system, unless you overload it with addons..  :huh:

Hi Bert,

 

Great to see you here, well, I don't see any reason why I get the performace I am getting, the main problem would be the stuttering in FSX, I was getting some blurry textures before but that was fixed already, it looks very good now, but still the stuttering is present almost everywhere.

 

I don't even have the sliders set all the way to the right, right now I have almost everything in Ultra High (Which does not set everything to the right) except fot eh Aircraft (Almost all shadows are disabled).

 

And regarding add-ons, I don't have too many, just the ones I use and those I can count then with my hand fingers.

 

I will try the 10 buck version of P3D and see how it goes.

 

I can install that one together with FSX, right?

 

Thank you very much for your interest.

 

Best regards.

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Yes, you can run them side by side, and I will be interested to hear your experience.

 

Again, there is no reason why FSX should be stuttering on your system, unless,

and this is the biggie, you overload it with addons.  If you have ten fingers, that could be quite a lot B)

 

As for settings... does it stutter with autogen at "normal", traffic turned off, and weather set to clear skies?

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Nope, if I am in the default C172 at a default airport, the FSX run perfectly, the problem comes when I try to fly in the way I normally do, with an Add-On aircraft, and complex airport with REX and Orbx textures and ASN weather, that's the problem comes, and that is a big issue for me beause if I get that kind of performance flyting the way I normally do, then I get that kind of performace all the time... You see what I mean?

 

Now, most of you would say it is normal but I think that with the hardware that I have, it should not be the case.

 

Everything is basically Ok, except for the stuttering and low FPS issue.

 

If that can be fixed, I would not even think about buying P3D.

 

Best regards.

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That is a classic case of overloading your system... you may think that should not be the case, but guess what...  There is no system I know of that cannot be overloaded by flight simulator addons when piled on top of each other..

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I have P3D, FSX, FSXSE and XPlane installed.  There's no reason why you couldn't add different programs.... sure, no reason why not.

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I am getting way more better VAS management with PMDG 737 and FTX PNW with FSX-SE (latest beta version). 

 

I am testing it further especially on p3d2.5

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If that can be fixed, I would not even think about buying P3D.

 

You might want to consider XPlane 10.xx.

 

For the most part these FSX vs. P3D vs. XYZ type of posts don't add value.  If you are having issues running FSX then you'll have issues running P3D (and probably XPlane 10.xx also).

 

Based on your statement, it sounds more like you're having a problem with FSX and would rather resolve your FSX problem than use P3D.  In which case, I encourage you to post in the FSX forums for a solution.  P3D will perform (FPS wise) better than FSX if you set "similar" graphics settings (they will never be exact because of the differences between the two products).

 

When you start adding the features that are NOT in FSX such as:

 

P3D Only options:

1.  Tessellation

2.  HDR

3.  Volumetric Fog

4.  Cloud shadows

5.  3D water

 

etc. ... then this will add more work for you CPU/GPU and hence reduce your FPS considerably.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Wow, that is so disappointing, I thought that maybe by buying this powerfull machine I would finally have a good experience with my hobby, but as far as I see here, I think that will not be.

 

:unsure:

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Wow, that is so disappointing, I thought that maybe by buying this powerfull machine I would finally have a good experience with my hobby, but as far as I see here, I think that will not be.

 

:unsure:

 

I have a (slightly) similar system and I do have a good experience with my hobby... you should be able to have a good experience too. Maybe not with all options as high as you want but you will get used to that. I use P3D and imho it performs better than FSX, not only with similar setting, but also with higher settings. For instance, I can turn on almost all shadows and reflections and still get good performance. So, as others already suggested, simply give P3D a try. You will need to fiddle around with the in game settings but forget about tweaking the cfg for now. Just see where this gets you. FSX and P3D will always be disappointing in some regard (maybe a slight stutter here, a slow loading texture there, some artifacts: it nevers runs 100% perfect) but you should be able to ENJOY it nonetheless with your system!

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Well, 

 

since I migrated to win 10, and did a semi-fresh install ( no applications or private folders under Windows kept ), I decided to be very restrictive about what I am going to install.

 

Bought p3dv2, and installed the latest version, and was so well impressed that yesterday I went ahead and got PMDG 777 again for it.

 

I also use ASN. I get between 23 and the limited 32 fps, with great graphics, AND I'm on an i5 2500 @ 3,3 GHz with a GTX 650 Ti 1 GB card !

 

I plan to upgrade to a Nvidia 960 2 GB ( 4GB still too expensive for me... ) and I believe I will be able to push the setting even further right in P3D.

 

I didn't install ORBX FTX Global, and the only scenery I have ( and has a few display and mesh problems never solved by Aerosoft ) is LPMA ( Madeira ).

 

I used FSX and FSX:SE with and without the excellent fixer, but I prefer the visual effects that P3D gives me.

 

My previous experience with P3Dv2, right after it was released, was a bad one, so bad that I returned and asked for the refund. The version I now am using has nothing to do in terms of performance with that initial version. I am very glad I took the plunge, and NO, I will not mess around with my clean and beautiful win 10 install and even think about putting FSX or FSX:SE back... Why would I ?

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That is a classic case of overloading your system... you may think that should not be the case, but guess what...  There is no system I know of that cannot be overloaded by flight simulator addons when piled on top of each other..

 

It amazes me that so many people that run flight sims can't seem to grasp this fact, if you give the processors more calculations to perform, which more  add ons require, it is going to slow everything down. Should be common sense.... 

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Good day everyone, once again thank you very much for your advice, well P3D is now downloading... But... There is a little problem... The PMDG J4100 does not work in P3D, does it? I really like that plane and if everything goes the way I expect it to be, I will certainly miss that aircraft in P3D...

 

Best Regards.


 

 

It amazes me that so many people that run flight sims can't seem to grasp this fact, if you give the processors more calculations to perform, which more  add ons require, it is going to slow everything down. Should be common sense.... 

Hi Bobsk8,

 

Yes, it is common sense, I do know that, but... With a powerfull processor like the I7 4790K running at 4.4 Ghz, one would think a high amount of information to process should not be a big issue.

 

It is just my humble opinion...

 

Best Regards.

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