If you prefer a 3D VC cockpit, wait for the PMDG 744 V2, which will be just as good or even better. The lack of a VC is what puts me off of PSX also.

 

We don't even know if there will be one for X-Plane, do we? Besides, knowing PMDG this will take another 2-3 years at least.

We don't even know if there will be one for X-Plane, do we? Besides, knowing PMDG this will take another 2-3 years at least.

They said they will bring the 737, 747 V2, and 777 to X-Plane. I also saw somewhere that they will release a Boeing for X-Plane next year, so it could come as early as then.

Well said Rob. 

 

The other thing I love with XP is you can throw everything at it and your only real limitation is your PC specs. No fear of OOM's. I hate flying wondering when it will OOM. With XP I really just concentrate on flying.as it should be.

Very true! There is an investment of some time and patience, but it does pay off. Really cool night-time lighting,and some great free-and payware stuff out there.Since January,I've hardly touched P3D or FSX,and am busy with Jardesign or Flightfactor. True the amount of payware airports isn't that much but getting more and more as time goes on.

Very true! There is an investment of some time and patience, but it does pay off. Really cool night-time lighting,and some great free-and payware stuff out there.Since January,I've hardly touched P3D or FSX,and am busy with Jardesign or Flightfactor. True the amount of payware airports isn't that much but getting more and more as time goes on.

 Comparing Mister X Free/Donationware Airports to some Payware Airports on FSX/P3D puts them to shame. Personally i think payware airports will never be a big market in x-plane. They started to late and almost everything is covered quite extensivley on the org.

Well,

 

took me around 5 hrs to install the downloadable version from X-Plane.com ( and not the full Earth tiles... ), and early in the morning / dawn, I checked it with my new GTX 960 4GB card.

 

I am still going to re-install many scenery ( mainly from SimHeaven / Word2XP, the .ORG and XPFR ), a few payware aircraft, the NOAA plugin, but 15 minutes with XP10, just with the default C172 and scenery, and most of the settings at mid-high revealed a very stable, smooth as usual and even more beautiful :-)

 

As soon as I get the download link for SMP v2 again available I will also install it, and then, one of these days, choose my "first" aircraft add-on after almost 1 yr off ....

We don't even know if there will be one for X-Plane, do we? Besides, knowing PMDG this will take another 2-3 years at least.

Sorry I thought I was responding on another thread (FSX). As for X-Plane PMDG did state, they plan to make a XP version of the 744 as well as the 777, and 737, but you're right, that could be some time.

The entrance of PMDG is both a good and bad thing - on the one hand, a major FSX developer is coming over to X-Plane, proving that it is considered a serious flight sim platform by large FSX developers. It will be the first in a wave of conversions and brand-new products that take advantage of X-Plane's capabilities not seen by default or not at all in FSX.

 

On the other hand, the incoming wave of huge payware devs might wash out all the incumbent freeware developers who may not be able to compete with the large budgets of the big devs. It might also dilute the DIY-and-share-your-results-for-free environment that X-Plane users still enjoy, which is conspicuously absent in the FSX world (I've had friends who've spent > $1000 on just software and FSX still crashes and doesn't look/fly as good as X-Plane).

There's not that many devs comming from fsx to xp, imo...

 

xp is a platform with a much bigger freeware support basis than the future of fsx, namely p3d.  Just this makes it a different choice for any simmer, since she / he can have a wealth of good scenery, comparable or sometimes superior to most of what is available for fsx / p3d for free.

 

The other side of the coin brings us the higher prices asked for some add-ons which can't be compared with their counterparts for fsx - aircraft, specially airliners. I don't compare with p3d, because that's another story and some devs are asking a good deal for their fsx products to run in p3d :-/

There's not that many devs comming from fsx to xp, imo...

 

xp is a platform with a much bigger freeware support basis than the future of fsx, namely p3d.  Just this makes it a different choice for any simmer, since she / he can have a wealth of good scenery, comparable or sometimes superior to most of what is available for fsx / p3d for free.

 

The other side of the coin brings us the higher prices asked for some add-ons which can't be compared with their counterparts for fsx - aircraft, specially airliners. I don't compare with p3d, because that's another story and some devs are asking a good deal for their fsx products to run in p3d :-/

 

i think you forget the biggest reason why you dont see so many developers comming over is because it is a different system. If you think long term users of P3D/FSX are unwilling to learn something new, you have never seen a developer They are usually the most change averse people i know. It requires relearning everything and basically throw everything you ever did for your plane out of the window (appart from the 3D model). So thats why P3D is the natural next target for most developers.  Its the vicious cycle you have: Developers are reluctant because it takes significant effort to release the first plane with unkown success.

i think you forget the biggest reason why you dont see so many developers comming over is because it is a different system. If you think long term users of P3D/FSX are unwilling to learn something new, you have never seen a developer They are usually the most change averse people i know. It requires relearning everything and basically throw everything you ever did for your plane out of the window (appart from the 3D model). So thats why P3D is the natural next target for most developers. Its the vicious cycle you have: Developers are reluctant because it takes significant effort to release the first plane with unkown success.

My point exactly. PMDG has gotten over that reluctance (they did so nearly 2-3 years ago now) and this tells other developers: 'Hey, maybe we actually ought to try X-Plane - have you heard? PMDG are developing for it too, now! And they say it's really cool!' Last sentence corroborated mainly by Kyle's reaction to the epic freeware community in X-Plane and X-Plane in general. I get the feeling the devs @ PMDG really like X-Plane.

 

I, for one, would love to see stuff like ASN, and QualityWings be ported over (QW's 787 is proving to be as accurate as anything PMDG has done and the flight model looks beautiful too).

Having flown in X-Plane 10 only for the past several months, I cannot see myself going back to FSX/P3D ever again. X-Plane is just a fantastic simulator that is just taking off where as study sim aircraft come in. I have packed many hours in the X-Plane skies and I am still blown away by the level of detail in the sim, especially with a few addons like Sky Maxx Pro and HD Mesh V3. I look forward to flying PMDG's future releases in X-Plane and really hope PMDG release the 747 V2 very soon for XP-10. 

ah memories, for me it wasn't until MS FSX that I stopped compairing with the Flight Unlimited Series.
And now X-Plane X got me throw FSX from my hard drive again, possibly for good.

The good things : 
- multiplatform, I am not bound to microsofts ecosystem
- plenty of freeware / donationware
- lighting system is unrivaled, especially at dusk / night

- I like slow and low in mountain areas during spring and summer time, so the scenery is perfect for me

- the vector system, roads and rivers look very natural, not like lines dropped on top of the generic textures.

- no blurries ! Microsoft dropped the ball there, big time.

- it uses all the hardware you have (with the exception of SLI). Add new hardware, ram, you see the results immediately.

  > Add more RAM, and crank up the scenery with W2XP and UHD mesh

  > Add more VRAM, and crank up the visual effects

- I expect a lot of new useable apps on the apple store and google play with the new system to call datarefs on the fly

 

The bad things have been brought up several times already, but for me the 2 spoilers : 

- default clouds are not sharp (but I got nice results with the Clouds Gold Edition X II 1.3 BETA on the org and default shader)

- ATC, I gave up on that

- ATC, I gave up on that

 

 

hi jh71,

 

you might want to look at this...

https://youtu.be/XR1q9oOn7hE

I would gladly  jump to XPlain if it had the following:

Orbx Global, Vector, OpenLC *with seasonal changes*

ASN!!!!!

That's it!

Given the fact that PMDG is already developing its new Aircraft for Xplain, I don't think it would be long until they bring others.

I know, a little of topic, but that's the only two things that keep me away from Xplain. Everything else I love about it.

 

- ATC, I gave up on that

 

The Radar  Contact 4 Plugin is awesome as I never used FSX default ATC anyway. 

 

FRRealWX has made great progress with their weather addon also. http://www.fsrealwx.net/