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Guys,

I 'm looking into upgrading to P3D, and I was asking myself why they claim the sw is for training and not for gaming. In what way?

I would be using the sw for training only, but didn't understand what differences are there between, say, FSX and P3D in relation to training.

More customizable in terms of failures, weather...maybe?

I will use it to run PMDG 777

Anyone willing to explain this?


<p>Francesco

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It's based on their license contract with Microsoft.Microsoft gave a license for training to LM (and others) and a license to Dovetail for gaming (which should materialize in the next year).

 

It's up to you to decide if your usage is within the guidelines.

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/product-overview/prepar3d-license-comparison/

 

Kind regards, Michael


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I understand it's a matter of licence, but what does it change between the 2 in relation to training?

Nothing?


<p>Francesco

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From my point of view not much. P3D comes with others planes, has better graphics, shadows etc. all being effects not necessarily devoted to training (aside the fact they improve immersion). I don't see it being equipped with much more special training features in comparison to FSX. I use if for general GA simulation in much the same way as I used FSX before.

 

However, there are features like Sim director which I never touched, thus I would leave it to others with more experience in this respect to comment on this point.

 

Kind regards, Michael


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Basically, FSX is about 9 years old & has not been updated, apart from FSX: Steam

P3D is on version 2.5 & Version 3 is on the horizon. There have been about 8-9 versions of P3D so far, so a lot more updated than FSX. Have a look at their forums.

 

The 'not for entertainment' part of their EULA covers them, as they are working with the original 'pro' version of FSX, called ESP,  that was not available to hobbyists.

 

So, if you want a game, go to FSX: Steam. If you want to learn... P3D.


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Basically, FSX is about 9 years old & has not been updated, apart from FSX: Steam

P3D is on version 2.5 & Version 3 is on the horizon. There have been about 8-9 versions of P3D so far, so a lot more updated than FSX. Have a look at their forums.

 

The 'not for entertainment' part of their EULA covers them, as they are working with the original 'pro' version of FSX, called ESP,  that was not available to hobbyists.

 

So, if you want a game, go to FSX: Steam. If you want to learn... P3D.

 

I have been a licensed Pilot for almost 40 years, and there is always something to learn about aviation. P3D is the place for me to do that. 


 

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That's all well and good guys, but as far as I understand the question of the OP was which specific technical features P3D has compared FSX to better support its use as a training tool.

 

Kind regrdas, Michael


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Ok, I believe I haven't express myself in a clear way. English is not my first language so don't blame me for that. I already struggle with a language that is not mine..

I'll try to rephrase it, hoping it comes across more clearly this time.

What are the features that make P3D better for training than FSX?


<p>Francesco

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Go to their web site & read what they say!


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Wobbie, thank you!!!! You are my light!

And you must have A LOT of free time if you spend it writing such useful things on the forum.

Good on you!

I only wish I had the time you have to say NOTHING on the web.

Oh, wait a minute... maybe not.... :fool:

 

Oh, I forgot: STEAM!!


<p>Francesco

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Wobbie, thank you!!!! You are my light!

And you must have A LOT of free time if you spend it writing such useful things on the forum.

Good on you!

I only wish I had the time you have to say NOTHING on the web.

Oh, wait a minute... maybe not.... :fool:

HUH?????


 

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Wobbie, thank you!!!! You are my light!

And you must have A LOT of free time if you spend it writing such useful things on the forum.

Good on you!

I only wish I had the time you have to say NOTHING on the web.

Oh, wait a minute... maybe not.... :fool:

 

Oh, I forgot: STEAM!!

Native language or not, that is still a rude reply.

 

I'll put it differently - stop asking questions when you CAN FIND THE ANSWER YOURSELF by simply READING the LM website.

 

Is that CLEAR enough?

 

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Neither is approved for training. 

Either may be used as part of a device that is approved for training.

So now you can stop looking.

 

Not only that, the L-M website contains specific examples of how. So now you should apologise to the person who gave you the best advice in this topic.

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Go to their web site & read what they say!

Vic, Nobody with an honest question should have to put up with smart &@($* comments like this. This is a forum, he came for an answer to his question. He was basically told to ********** off. You tell him to quit asking questions. Who gave YOU that right. Heck, many of the questions on these forums have an answer elsewhere. That doesn't imply that they cannot be asked here. This type of response happens far too often here. I think that it's time that the moderators put an end to it. I don't blame the OP for his reply.


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I agree to you, Jimmi. Even more, as the OP obviously is new to P3D and, honestly, the Prepar3d Website is not that well-organized that the answer is obvious. You certainly can find an answer there, but then we don't need fora at all as 95 % of all question have been answered *somewhere* before.

 

To return to track, I still think Simdirector

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/product-overview/

 

(on the bottom of that page) is one of the answers as it allows setting up training scenarios. However, never having used it myself I am not in a position to comment on its use. From what I am reading on the LM forums now and then it's no much used by general users, but rather by LMs industrial customers, which is why they are quite actively developing it. The Learning Center under

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/SDKv2/LearningCenter/LearningCenter.php

 

has more info on its use.

 

Kind regards, Michael


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