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Big sale and I can't pass it up but not sure which airliner to get. I am torn between the FlyJSim 37 and 27 package. Also consider other options. Anyone have one of the above and wish to share their thoughts - or offer another alternative?

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Big sale and I can't pass it up but not sure which airliner to get. I am torn between the FlyJSim 37 and 27 package. Also consider other options. Anyone have one of the above and wish to share their thoughts - or offer another alternative?

 

If you are into Classic airliners, you cant overlook these two. I had only the 727-200 pack but thanks to this sale I now have the complete pack. The 737-200 has been updated a couple of weeks ago with a better 3D cockpit and lots of functionality so it is a more mature product despite being more recent than the 727.

 

The developer has stated he will now start work on the 727 and bring it up to the same level of detail as the 737. Personally, I have a soft spot for the 727 so am happy to wait, but you cant go wrong with either, they are both fantastic quality.

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the 727 is currently getting an update including an FMC and it will be glorious. You can even watch him stream the update progress.  These two planes are currently the best steamguage tubeliners you can get imho. And with the update the 727 will get an FMC so there you will be able to get a fix :)

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Thanks, one more question - are the windows in the passenger cabin real or painted on?

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Thanks, one more question - are the windows in the passenger cabin real or painted on?

I had never noticed...LOL, I just turned on my machine to have a look and they are indeed only painted on.

 

To be honest, you have so much going on with these birds that you never think of looking at the cabin. I failed 3 out of my last 5 flights as I stalled it in a turn, and also managed to cook the engines. It is great fun to learn to fly and control

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the 727 is currently getting an update including an FMC and it will be glorious. You can even watch him stream the update progress. These two planes are currently the best steamguage tubeliners you can get imho. And with the update the 727 will get an FMC so there you will be able to get a fix :)

Navigraph updatable?

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Jack is coding multiple options for the 727.

 

 - CIVA: An old school add-on from .org for 10 bucks. This is what they used before they got GPS

 - GNS 530 - Baked into X-Plane so you've already got it and it's Navigraph up-datable.

 - X-FMC - Freeware addon  that is Navigraph up-datable.

 

This next update is going to make the 727 the "Go-To" heavy metal for me in X-Plane.

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I alreay had the JAR and purchased the RW Design A330-300. I must say I prefer the JAR. It seems to fly beter but the RW A330 is not bad for the prices and  I did a few short flights with flight plans and SID's and STAR's you will need to follow this guide for those and it followed them fine.

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I ended up purchasing the JARDesign A330, I'm so happy with my choice.

I'm thinking about getting the plane. How are the VC textures?

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On the Jardesign how are the frame rates? Can you look out of the passenger windows? Is there any interactive tutorial? Any little things that really stand out and make it special?

Thanks

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I'm thinking about getting the plane. How are the VC textures?

 

Best I ever seen for an Airbus for X-Plane, I compare it to the ones of the Aerosoft FSX Airbuses.

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On the Jardesign how are the frame rates? Can you look out of the passenger windows? Is there any interactive tutorial? Any little things that really stand out and make it special?

Thanks

 

The frames in my case are about the same of the FF 777 or 757 if you have those, I was surprised of that. You can look out of the passenger windows to a very nice wing view, the eye candy and systems depth are superb (and the sounds too). About docs, manuals, tutorials, etc., you can look at the Jardesign forums. And the little things? well for me, best Airbus vc for X-Plane yet, nice in flight checklists, excellent pax cabin, great sounds (every possible switch click is there), plenty of liveries at the forum, all the system depth you may want (this is a serious sim) SIDs, STARs, the FBW feels pretty solid, so yes for me this Airbus is special.

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Thanks, one more question; is there a quick way to start and fly? I am a bit concerned it may be too complex for me but I am considering it.

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Sure there is a hot start (quick start) feature when the plane is cold and dark, very useful feature.

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Starting an Airbus up is actually quite straightforward. The MCDU (FMS in Airbus parlance) can take a little getting used to as can the push/pull managed/manual autopilot controls. Actually I find them easier to handle than Boeings.

 

Jardesign does not supply any manuals though and expects users to know Airbus systems. Their stuff is getting better graphically but I have say systems-wise is not as polished or as faithful to the original as the Aerosoft A3XX series for FS.

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Airbus for me is still confined to anything using the QPAC fbw module, like Peter's aircraft or QPAC itself...

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What about the JarDesign A 320 Neo ?

I noticed it comes with more things like a follow me truck which I don't think the 330 comes with..

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What about the JarDesign A 320 Neo ?

I noticed it comes with more things like a follow me truck which I don't think the 330 comes with..

 

Unfortunately, the follow me truck thus nothing for the flight dynamics and FBW implementation, and I really don't like, never liked, the feel of the JarDesign Neo that much, specially after having tried the QPAC.

 

But in my previous post I forgot that also the FF A350 and the RW A330 are now QPAC FBW equipped.

 

Of course since the JarDesigns models are WIP too, I will try them again each time new / revised versions are made available...

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I may be wrong here, but on the JARDesign forums there is a beta release of the A320 that includes the QPAC FBW implementation. I've tried it and it is definitely better. It still has issues, but the Beta 4 version is a good few steps in the right direction.

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there is a beta release of the A320 that includes the QPAC FBW implementation
Howdy Paul, are you absolutely sure about that statement? I read that JAR believes he can make his own A320/A330 FBW simulation approach the standards of QPAC but he is not considering using it for now. If he did it sure would be nice but I don't believe that's on the table to be honest.

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The test is simple.... perform an autoland under x-wind.... with turbulence... Nothing comes close to any airbus "powered" by the QPAC FBW module...

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I think you're right Dave. I'm getting confused with probably a recent Airbus release; maybe a FF one?

 

However, my original statement holds true. Improvements to the FBW have been made, My very brief tests show that it doesn't resemble a drinking duck on a hand flown approach anymore. More testing required. It's a hangar queen though beside the LES Saab 340 and the FlyJSim offerings.

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