VoxATC and P3D V3

[Glynn 405]

Mine installed with the gauge windows set to visible=0 in all the panel.cfg's you may need to assign a keypress to call them up, or edit the panel.cfg's

[vp49p3 216]

mwilk--  If VOX doesn't show up in your panel view, there are config entries to add to the panel config to make the VOX panels show up.  I had to do that even in FSX and v2.5 with a lot of aircraft where the panel was absent, especially in those that had a multitude of instrument panel views. I don't have access to the additional panel config entries at the moment, but I think they are somewhere else in the VOX forums.

I also forgot that after panel installs sometimes the panel entries were out of numerical order (or there were duplicate numbered entries) and the panels wouldn't show up.  Numbering them in correct sequence was required for the panel to show up.

[Glynn 405]

Here are the entries you need.

////<VoxATC
Window10=VoxATC
Window11=VoxATC Recent Comms
////>VoxATC


////<VoxATC
[Window10]
visible=1
size_mm=400,200
pixel_size = 400, 200
position=4
background_color=0,0,0
ident=14077
zorder=5
alpha_blend=0.65
gauge00=VAGauge!VoxATCPrompt,0,0
////>VoxATC


////<VoxATC
[Window11]
visible=0
size_mm=400,600
pixel_size = 400, 600
position=5
background_color=255,255,255
ident=14078
zorder=5
gauge00=VAInfo!VoxATCInfo,0,0,400,600
////>VoxATC

[mwilk 1,106]

Thanks Glynn,

                         This one has me stumped. The times before when I tried to install VOX with the migrator tool I was always able to bring up the display. It crashed for other reasons. This time, I can't get the display to come up at all. I might have to try it in a default airplane and see if that makes a difference. Thanks again for your help.

[mwilk 1,106]

So, I found a small workaround. The display panel shows on the 2D panel for some reason. If I undock the VOX display panel,I can use it in the VC. Tomorrow, I try a flight and see if the rest of the program works.

[BadgerBtU 0]

Ok, here goes.  Good luck.

 

The method is to create a series of linked folders so that it appears that an installation of P3Dv2 is installed on the computer.  When VoxATC runs it is "tricked" into thinking it is reading from a P3Dv2 installation, when it is actually reading the P3Dv3 files.  Carry out the following to set this up.  Please read the notes at the end before proceeding.

 

The first step, though, is to check the registry.  I believe that VoxATC locates the P3D installation from the following key (the following is taken from an export on my PC); my installation is at D:\P3Dv3.

 

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Lockheed Martin]

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2]

"SetupPath"="D:\\P3Dv3\\"

 

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There should already be a corresponding key for v3.  You must create the key above for v2, but make sure it is referencing your v3 installation folder.**  One way to do this is to amend the text above within the dashes to point to your installation folder then save it as a text file with a *.reg extension.  Double-clicking that file should then import the entry into your registry.

 

The folders we need to create links to are

 

%userprofile%/Documents/Prepar3D v3 Files

%localappdata%/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3D v3

%appdata%/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3D v3

%programdata%/Lockheed Martin/Prepar3D v3

 

Run a command prompt with admin priveleges**, and type the following commands:

 

cd %userprofile%\Documents

 

mklink /d "Prepar3D v2 Files" "Prepar3D v3 Files"

 

You should find, if you look at your Documents folder, that a new folder "Prepar3D v2 Files" (the link) has been created, with a little shortcut symbol in the corner of the icon.  The Prepare v2 Files folder acts as a kind of shortcut to the "real" v3 folder (the target).  Whenever you or an app accesses files within the v2 folder you / it is actually accessing files in the v3 folder.  It is safe to delete the link folder (i.e. it will not delete the target folder files) if necessary; however, deleting individual files in the link, WILL delete the files in the target.

 

Then do the same for the other folders:

 

cd %localappdata%\Lockheed Martin

 

mklink /d "Prepar3D v2" "Prepar3D v3"

 

cd %appdata%\Lockheed Martin

 

mklink /d "Prepar3D v2" "Prepar3D v3"

 

cd %programdata%\Lockheed Martin

 

mklink /d "Prepar3D v2" "Prepar3D v3"

 

On my PC, at least, after doing the above, VoxATC works.  I would recommend you do a fresh VoxATC install at this point.

 

NOTES

 

** if I am assuming too much Windows techie know-how here, please let me know, I can explain further.

 

- v3 is the only version I have installed, if you also have v2 installed then this will not work.

 

- for ages I have had an issue where (sometimes) if I run the programs using the shortcuts the installation creates in the start menu, it goes into an install routine instead of running the program.  I don't know if anyone else has this issue, and I have no idea what causes it.  What I do is to create a shortcut on my desktop to the VoxATC installation folder and run the *.exes directly from there.

 

- SimulatorSelection.exe now crashes on my machine.  Doesn't really matter to me too much as VoxATC works, and I'm only running one version of P3D anyway.

 

- Run the following (from the VoxATC folder)if the installation fails, or when necessary:

 

Registrar.exe (to register VoxATC with your key)

AdvancedSettings.exe (config)

JoystickSelect.exe (config)

VoxATCSettings.exe (config)

VAPanelSelect.exe (to select which aircraft to add panels to)

VoiceConfig.exe (to configure voices)

VoxATCIndexer.exe (to index scenery, aircraft, etc.  you should run this any time you make scenery changes or add aircraft)

 

- I believe all this to be perfectly safe, but you tinker with the registry and make the changes above at your own risk... etc, blah.  Please don't blame me if something breaks.

 

- Superficially, it appears to work for me.  I have not tested in depth, and problems may still crop up.

 

- Other addons will think you have a P3Dv2 installation on your PC.  I would just select to install to v3 (where offered), or just let it install to v2 if not.  Most addons now recognise v3, but for those that don't I don't think there should be an issue.

 

- I am running Windows 10 64-bit.  Folders / registry keys might not be exactly the same for other versions.

 

- I believe that this is doing manually (some of) what the migration tool does for you.  If you are using the migration tool already, it's possible there could be unintended issues.

I used your instructions here and voxatc works great now with the exception of the FO not changing radio freq. Thank you.

[ETNWHVAC 4]

For me VoxATC works on P3Dv3 installed with the Migration Tool. But it has a horrible Ground handling of aircraft to the point that it seems that AI doesn't know or care you are right in front of it. Also when looking at the AI from a new window the AI if on the ground sometimes seems to loose control and self destroy on the tarmac, if on the air same thing they sometimes loose control and crash in the ground. Other than that it works fine giving command and responding to voice input. It uses the Navigraph SID's and STAR's and the Ground guidance lights also work! I had close calls for ground collisions due to VoxATC clearing me for altitudes I shouldn't had been given clearance for!!! So I hope Vox ATC v7 will come with ground awareness. I'm sure that's what it's happening The new VoxATC v7 will be P3Dv3 compliant and will have terrain awareness.

[Glynn 405]

 

 

The new VoxATC v7 will be P3Dv3 compliant and will have terrain awareness.

 

Dream on, the Dev is AWOL and does not even answer his Emails any more.

[mwilk 1,106]

Dream on, the Dev is AWOL and does not even answer his Emails any more.

I just moved on to Pilot 2 ATC for that reason.

[johnbla 31]

I just moved on to Pilot 2 ATC for that reason.

 

I'm thinking of doing the same. What's it like?

[mwilk 1,106]

I'm thinking of doing the same. What's it like?

I just bought it today, so I haven't been able to fly a flight with it yet. It's somewhat like Vox in that you can use voice interaction but you also have the option of pressing a button to give your responses. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to play with it more tomorrow. Right now they're beta testing version 2, so if you buy version 1 you can get the key for the beta version also.

[johnbla 31]

I just bought it today, so I haven't been able to fly a flight with it yet. It's somewhat like Vox in that you can use voice interaction but you also have the option of pressing a button to give your responses. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to play with it more tomorrow. Right now they're beta testing version 2, so if you buy version 1 you can get the key for the beta version also.

 

Many thanks. After a couple of flights, any chance of a quick review? I am more interested in pressing the button option, I am not into the voice interaction too much. Also, I fly mainly VFR so I am interested in that option as well.

[mwilk 1,106]

Many thanks. After a couple of flights, any chance of a quick review? I am more interested in pressing the button option, I am not into the voice interaction too much. Also, I fly mainly VFR so I am interested in that option as well.

If you check on YouTube, there are some videos that show version 2 in action. I really like VOX but it looks like it may be done for good.

[johnbla 31]

Thanks.

[pegruder 65]

I switched to Pilot2ATC - the v2.x betas have been coming along nicely.  I haven't looked back to vox yet.