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Final comment.  By dropping my XP to the following settings (reasonable to be sure, and still nice...) as you can see, I got my FPS up to 16 on the ground...and that will climb as I climb....

 

Well, there are at least two settings I would reduce. First is the unnecessarily high antialiasing. You not only use 4xAA, you even combine it with FXAA, which in my eyes is a bit unnecessary, esp. at the high screen resolution you're running. Then, "complete" water reflection is also not necessary in many cases; most of the time, default is enough.Finally, you have locked your FPS, which is a bad idea when having FPS problems.

 

This said, there is indeed a low-res cockpit texture set available, if you want to try if that improves anything, mail me again.

 

 

So, I believe it was Catstrator who made the Youtube video and commented on the sounds.  Have those been improved since?  According to Sesquashtoo, sound is amazing.  So, curious if there have been improvements made or it's just differing opinions here.

Apart from a bug fix which is already included in all recent downloads, the sounds have not been changed yet; in update v1.1 some more corrections will be made. So basically what you hear in the few YT videos is what you get, which means it's indeed different opinions.

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You not only use 4xAA, you even combine it with FXAA, which in my eyes is a bit unnecessary, esp. at the high screen resolution you're running.

 

 

Sorry Mario, but that gives the impression that a high resolution does not require high levels of AA; this may be the case on smaller monitors, but on larger monitors it is indeed required to combat shimmering.  4xSSAA + FXAA is barely adequate on my 32" 2560x1440 monitor.

 

 

 

Apart from a bug fix which is already included in all recent downloads, the sounds have not been changed yet; in update v1.1 some more corrections will be made. So basically what you hear in the few YT videos is what you get, which means it's indeed different opinions.

 

I do hope that some tweaks to the sounds will be forthcoming, as at higher RPM's I do notice a bit of a loop which can get annoying, and causes me to turn my sound down.  Other than that particular issue, the sounds are indeed very nice.

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4xSSAA + FXAA is barely adequate on my 32" 2560x1440 monitor.

On your what?? 32"??  :shok: Well, okay, maybe. I'm soooo used to run X-Plane without any AA at all on 1920x1080 (22") that 4xSSAA+FXAA looks like a total overkill to me.

 

Just for the record and the sake of comparison:

 

I use an i5-2320 3 GHZ, 8 GB RAM, NVidia GT530 (2 GB), Windows 10. Without SkyMaxx Pro I'd not be able to run X-Plane at all (or only when 0 clouds were visible). When I don't take screenshots, but use X-Plane just for entertainment (well... tbh, that has been very rarely the case in the last months. :-( ), I usually get between 19 to 25 FPS in HD aircraft such as the SR20 or the Carenado CT182, with HD mesh v3 (not extended DSF load), textures "very high", drawing distance "medium", HDR on, AA off, shadows off, reflections default. With HDR off it'd be much faster, but without HDR X-Plane is basically unusable during sunrise, sunset and nights, so I keep it. By the way, with P3D v2.5, for example the A2A C182, I get steady 25 to 30 FPS even in OrbX terrain and with nice-looking autogen, plus cockpit shadows and 4xAA.

 

 

I do hope that some tweaks to the sounds will be forthcoming, as at higher RPM's I do notice a bit of a loop which can get annoying, and causes me to turn my sound down.  Other than that particular issue, the sounds are indeed very nice.

Walker had fixed some bugs regarding sound change when power increases. I'll have to tell them about that loop.

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You may already be aware of this about the performance...Mario (PM him) offers a low resolution version of the plane that has solved my FPS and stutter issues. I also had to use compressed textures in my preferences because I was hitting my 4GB limit on my video card. Plane flies great and fluid like the rest of my fleet....no need to turn anything down.

OK, thanks for this...I'm PM him for a copy...that would help.

Why don't you drop down to 2x AA instead of 4x?

Because I like that setting for visuals.  Looks better, in my opinion. :)

 

 

 

This said, there is indeed a low-res cockpit texture set available, if you want to try if that improves anything, mail me again.

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Hi Mario,

 

I just sent you another email....yes, please send back that lower rez edition...and let me try it out. Thanks in advance.

 

Mitch

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Mario...just installed the lower res version, and here is the result:  Most usable now on my system and 2GB card.

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Mario...great Dev feedback and service.  I'll keep my eye on other offerings from you, for sure.

 

Mitch

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Mario...great Dev feedback and service.  I'll keep my eye on other offerings from you, for sure.

Glad it works! :)

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Glad it works! :)

It sure does...and I will go to that great looking high res, as soon as I upgrade to a 4-6 GB card.  Here are another couple shots from a Happy Camper.  This plane might just turn out to be one kept in the front line of the hangar..right next to my C377! :)  Great fun to fly...good VFR visuality from the pilot's seat.  Just a nice all-round flight experience. Congrat's.

 

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YOU...deserve a break today...and here it is...:)

 

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Having WAY too much fun!

 

Final shot from me....ah..er..having way too much fun! :)

 

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Having WAY too much fun!

 

Final shot from me....ah..er..having way too much fun! :)

 

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So, Sesquashtoo, I take it from your perspective, there's no real big pending issues that should prevent me from buying this plane, huh?  :)

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So, Sesquashtoo, I take it from your perspective, there's no real big pending issues that should prevent me from buying this plane, huh?  :)

 

Hello, Kevin,

 

Had some weird issues (at my end...my setup...not the plane file),got that cleared up...and has been great ever since.  Having a BALL!

 

I'm an honest man...if I think something is lousy...you'll read about it...and conversely...if great...again, you'll read about it.  I'm in nobody's pocket....

 

Great visuals, really good instrumentation...enjoying working with it as I fly...I think FABULOUS sound...you are there...no loops...inside and out...

 

...and oh..I lied...having too much fun with this bird...not the final shot...THESE are the final 3 shots LOLOLOLOL:

 

Seriously...you will need to work with your XPX.41 settings...as this bird comes packed with visuals (if it rains...you'll sure see it on the windows of the cabin...etc...) so it is resource demanding..but having typed that...I am now getting with the High (normal) Res download...easily, 25-30 FPS.  I just had to tone down to around 70 percent of what I can fly with, with low-demand, generic aircraft. These are the settings you are seeing in these screen grabs, and the mask I show. 

 

Have fun...and join the club, sir!

 

Over 'n out,

Mitch

 

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So, Sesquashtoo, I take it from your perspective, there's no real big pending issues that should prevent me from buying this plane, huh?  :)

Just in case you haven't noticed yet, you can also download the manuals before purchase, so you'll know what's inside and what not. :)

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1oiuly4mmlo2s1/SR20_v1.0__manual_en_v1.0.pdf?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/72y9d5bi2ifr6a0/SR20_v1.0__avionics_en_v1.0.pdf?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/85szauxa1yaivah/SR20_v1.0__tutorial_en_v1.0.pdf?dl=0

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Hey Mario...notice what I have the fan and cabin heat settings to...in that final third shot?   It's freakin' cold out there, today....ROFLMBO!

 

Again...great plane..will wait for whatever tweaks and/or features your updates will bring...

 

Salute!

 

Ses

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Sesquashtoo...or anyone for that matter that has this plane.  Do you also have the DDEN Challenger 300?  I'm wondering how this plane performs compared to that.  I guess that's a relative performance hungry plane and I run it ok.  So, if this is at least as good as that, I'd be happy.  Better would of course be nice too.  :)

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Do you also have the DDEN Challenger 300?  I'm wondering how this plane performs compared to that.  I guess that's a relative performance hungry plane and I run it ok.

I don't think that the Challenger is sooo performance hungry. So if you can run the Challenger just "ok", you might have to fiddle around with your rendering settings, or I might need to send you low-res cockpit textures, too.

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Sesquashtoo...or anyone for that matter that has this plane.  Do you also have the DDEN Challenger 300?  I'm wondering how this plane performs compared to that.  I guess that's a relative performance hungry plane and I run it ok.  So, if this is at least as good as that, I'd be happy.  Better would of course be nice too.  :)

I have both...and would say that this plane is just slightly more intense...a couple of FPS here and there.  Still, if you can fly the Challenger...you WILL be able to take this bird up, and enjoy the experience.

 

Mitch

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I don't think that the Challenger is sooo performance hungry. So if you can run the Challenger just "ok", you might have to fiddle around with your rendering settings, or I might need to send you low-res cockpit textures, too.

I can run the Challenger better than just "ok" I'd say.  Sorry, that came off as if I can't run the Challenger well.  I can.  It's not screaming on my system but I'm happy with it.  So, if this is even sort of close to it, I think I'll be fine.

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Thanks Mitch!

 

I will be getting this one too.

 

Jose

Jose, I'm sure you will really like it...for no doubt, that I did! :)

 

Composites always intrigued me, and that passenger-saving parachute emergency deployment, was an engineer thinking WAY outside the box....wow!  

 

What I don't understand...is that the system is not mandatory on commercial aviation....maybe three or four doors along the length of the aircraft's roof explode off...deploying the life-saving silk.....in three or four parachute sails.  How many hundreds of lives could this have saved...icing...stall,  Those poor souls in the Air France disaster could have had their lives saved...most of them...with a controlled decent to the ocean surface. Something to think about.

 

Well...$300,000.00 will buy you one of these new....if I have the price tag right.... :)  Parachute included....

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Composites always intrigued me, and that passenger-saving parachute emergency deployment, was an engineer thinking WAY outside the box....wow!  

 

The story of the development of the CAPS system for the SR20 is extremely fascinating, although of course very sad as well. 

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The story of the development of the CAPS system for the SR20 is extremely fascinating, although of course very sad as well. 

Sad?...I didn't see that coming...

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Sad?...I didn't see that coming...

You can read the history in Cirrus' own CAPS guide:

 

http://cirrusaircraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/CAPS_Guide.pdf

 

However, the Cirrus SR20/22 is a bit controversial, partly because these aircraft are not FAA certified for spin recovery, but instead have (must have) CAPS. Also you can read on many aviation forums that the SR2x had more accidents than other aircraft, and people speculate that the SR2x is often selected by inexperienced pilots who get a false impression of security. Also, sometimes it is said that Cirrus would teach pilots to switch on the autopilot at 300 to 500 feet and leave it on until final. It makes sense, because the whole "Perspective" avionics suite invokes the feeling of a flying computer (it's a glass cockpit, after all, and making piloting easier is one of the tasks of glass). So the rumour is that SR2x pilots simply don't have the hand-flying experience they'd need in critical situations.

 

I don't know if that's true, but you can find a lot of debates over that topic in the Internet (here's just one interesting thread: http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45813 )

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From what I've learned about the plane, most pilots who buy it take more risks because they rely on the parachute to save them. These risks include, not being proficient in the avionics or flying into poor weather.

 

But what do I know, I don't have one and could only afford to buy this one. I even needed a discount.  :smile:

 

Thanks Mario.

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