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Hi Captains, 

 

i`m usualy absolutley happy with V3 but since i installed GEP3D and UTX Europe i have VAS Problems again :sad:

 

Actualy i`m on a long haul flight from EDDF to KJFK with the PMDG 77F.  

 

At the start in EDDF i had 1200 MB VAS free which is great then somewhere over the Nederlands the vas dropped to 450 MB Free after i left the UK i only had 190 MB left no i m 200 Miles in front of the Canadian Cost and i only have 150 MB VAS left. 

 

I thought over the "sea" i should get a lot of vas back because there is only water. 

 

I configured UTX to the nickn utx settings guide for balanced performance and graphics.

 

I don`t have every slider on the full right: 

 

FXAA: Off

MSAA : 4 Samples

Antisrtopic: 16x 

Texture Resuolution 1024x1024 

Tesselation: ON

Frames Locked to 33 with Vsync and Tripple buffering

 

Scenery: 

 

Detail Radius: HIGH

Tesselation Factor: high

Mesh: 15 Meters

Textures: 15 cm

Scenery Objects sliders are all on Normal 

Water Deail: Medium 

Clouds and Plane for water shadows

 

Special effects both : medium

 

Lightining: 

 

HDR: On

Landling lights ground: on 

Lens flare : on 

 

Shadows Medium

Terrain shadwos : 0 m

Cloud shadow : 0m 

Object shadow: 6 km

Internal and Extran vehicle : receive and cast  

rest of shadows: off

 

weather: 

cloud draw distance: 80 mi

coverage : medium

volumetric fog on with detailed clouds

 

Traffic: everything off 

 

My Hardware: 

 

i7 5820K @ 4,5 Ghz 

Full HD Monitior (1920x1080) 

16 GB DDR4 2400 Mhz 

GTX750ti ( will be replaced with 980TI on Monday :)

P3D V3 on a SSD 

 

thanks for your advice


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That sounds indeed strange with those normal settings. Did you fly over London and shannon? How is your sound setting in the PMDG 777? If set to all sounds will take 2-300mb of vas you could dumb over seas.If it is set to none leave it there or you will hit VAS LIMIT. In case of an emergency oom avoid you can reduce textures to 512kb later towards the approach. Strange indeed

 

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the only thing that changed was the installation of gep3d and utx europe i will try it again with gep3d and utx disabeld. 


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GEP3D and UTX would not cause that issue. I have both and have had no issues. I do NOT fly the PMDG however.

 

IMHO something else is causing the issue.

 

 

Vic


 

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I think there is a lot of people intent on beaking P3D V3 and getting upset because they can not!!!!...

 

Did you have an OOM message, then there is no VAS problem.

 

enjoy your flights looking at the scenery and flying the AC not the vAS...

 

Jorge

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I never had an issue with VAS in p3d or FSX until I installed vector, I think UTX does the same job,somthing about thsee programs breaks stuff


ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI.

 

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It's probably the UTX settings. If you turn on all the optons it will hit VAS and FPS, namely roads and bridges.

 

The poster needs to post his UTX settings and/or monitor the area in the UTX setup tool that shows the expected performance hit from each setting.


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As Jorge said - what difference does it make *IF* you don't get an OOM message. LM has done different things with memory management in V3. The monitoring of VAS can be very misleading. As long as it DOESN'T give an OOM error, the remaining or used VAS really means nothing.

 

  1. Just fly
  2.  if you get OOM's - report it
  3. if not - see #1

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Well said Vic, I find that in this and other fora , people seems to be intent in breaking the SIM instead of learning to fly...

 

Jorge

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I never had an issue with VAS in p3d or FSX until I installed vector, I think UTX does the same job,somthing about thsee programs breaks stuff

 

Especially vector


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Hi Togehter,

 

i get the oom message and p3d closes :( 

 

As i said i didnt activate all the UTX settings i exactly did what nickn describes in his guide here :http://www.simforums.com/forums/setup-utx-all-versions-update-new-lights-settings_topic46147.html

 

So BR4, BR5 and RD4 and RD5 is disabled and also: 

 

RCX Road Encasements
Urban Major and Secondary Roads
Urban connecting and important Roads
Minor Rural Roads
 
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ok, that is strange. By itself GEP3D/UTX put more of a load on your system but I and many others run them just fine with similar settings. There may be something else on your system that is interfering. GEP3D/UTX may put it over the top but there is something else that is eating VAS.

 

Do you have any other scenery add-ons, any other airports, any ORBX products? Running any other add-ons - ASN? FSCREW? etc.

 

 

Vic


 

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Hi Guys, 

 

i don`t know how many know the thread of ROB regarding VAS in P3D V3 but i found out that with Hyperthreading enabled and no Affinity mask set i get the OOM`s wihtout HT i have no prolbems. 


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So can someone explain to me ACTUALLY what they are using as I last night I got an OOM flying from CYVR to EGLL.

 

When I used FSX I would always get the OOM on approach into EGLL.  Last night I got it over greenland.

 

My prepar3d.cfg is after the pictures.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

http://vataware.com/flight/562c2aa6535233559e000001

 

this are my settings.  Can someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me where I am going wrong.

 

 

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