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The weird part is that md11 sales are picking up after it was officially abandoned.

You'll love the aircraft Scott and there's always going to be help on the forum.

Enjoy,

H.M

 

Interesting. I helped with that. I'd always wanted to get it but always held it back due to the fact I only recently was able to transition to FSX and the investment was considerable. Now with it gone from PMDG I couldn't hold out longer and risk missing out on this beauty, could be that pretty soon it will vanish from shelves. So I took one box from aerosoft's bargain bin, luckily. Arrived today. Ready to roll out of the hangar.

 

 

Rui Laureano 

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Rui Laureano

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Rui,

Take good care of her. There is so much she has to offer.

Also I miss the older style manuals pmdg used to offer. Still like going back to them.

Enjoy!

H.M

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The fact that PMDG expect me to go back to FSX to run the MD-11 isn't good business sense at all imo.  I'd like PMDG to explain what costs are involved in making the FSX version available in P3D V3.1?


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The fact that PMDG expect me to go back to FSX to run the MD-11 isn't good business sense at all imo.  I'd like PMDG to explain what costs are involved in making the FSX version available in P3D V3.1?

 

We've discussed this several times over.

 

See point #3 here:

http://www.avsim.com/topic/426637-pmdg-position-in-p3d-with-boeing-but-how-about-bae-or-md/page-2#entry2856561

 

It alludes quite clearly to the amount of work and discussions that much occur between the various parties, and the liability involved in developing for that platform. There is more detail out there that reference the legal opinions from our counsel regarding putting our products into P3D. It isn't simply a "recompile for P3D" type of issue.

 

I know some other developers out there have their own opinions on how to run things, but that's how they run their business, and not for us to comment on. If people don't like how we run things...well...directions are provided in the linked thread.


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The fact that PMDG expect me to go back to FSX to run the MD-11 isn't good business sense at all imo. I'd like PMDG to explain what costs are involved in making the FSX version available in P3D V3.1?

They HAVE explained it - repeatedly. Do a search. The aircraft never sold well in FSX - if it was not a case of losing money, then at best it barely made a profit. On that basis alone, it would probably make little sense to invest the time and money to update it for P3D.

 

Secondly, based on the licensing relationship PMDG has with Boeing, it may not even be possible for them to legally produce a P3D version of the MD-11. Although the aircraft was originally a McDonnell Douglas product, and was long out of production even when the FSX version was released, Boeing was rather restrictive on a number of things relating to this particular aircraft. (In ways they were not for the 747, 737 and 777). For instance, PMDG was not permitted to publish the aircraft's fuel burn performance figures in the accompanying FSX aircraft documentation - though they did hard-code it into the FMS.

 

Another possible issue, (and this is pure speculation), is that AFAIK, one of the developers who was responsible for much of the MD-11's coding parted ways with PMDG long ago. That could impact trying to develop a new product based on the original. That is not the kind of thing commercial software vendors publically discuss, nor do I expect them to.

 

Don't get me wrong - the MD-11 was one of my favorite PMDG aircraft in FSX, and I would love to see it in P3D, but I accept the company's statement that it is not going to happen. No amount of complaining is going to change anything, nor do I think the PMDG owes anyone an explanation. They have made a business decision, and that is just the way it is.

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Don't get me wrong - the MD-11 was one of my favorite PMDG aircraft in FSX, and I would love to see it in P3D, but I accept the company's statement that it is not going to happen

Same here, which is why I have reverted back to Steam just to fly this particular aircraft, as well as use P3D for the other PMDG-supported aircraft.

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As a customer who bought the MD-11, will I still be able to re-download the MD-11 again from the PMDG website then?

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The problem is the VC is really showing it's age I was gonna pick it up until I saw how low res it was


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As a customer who bought the MD-11, will I still be able to re-download the MD-11 again from the PMDG website then?

 

Yeah. I can still re-download my copy of the FS9 747 if I wanted to.


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Hi all,

 

Mourning the fact that the MD11 is no longer available.

 

It almost feels like the real thing being retired. I will just have to cherish the ones I have flying around my virtual world, what a great quirky wonderful aircraft. My go to airliner most of the time.

 

I wonder how much website space it takes to leave the poor old bird available as a legacy item, just for old times sake, and those folks who wish they had bought it when they could. I guess space is needed in the PMDG hanger for the 747-400v2 and the DC6...........Oh well!


Happy Flying,

 

Dave Phillips.

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I've begun flying it. It almost seems alive. There are moments one can almost "feel" the aircraft thinking in the background. It's a flight simulation piece of art. Now I have to find a way to digest the 800+ pages long manual :)).

 

Rui Laureano

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Rui Laureano

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I run legacy FSX.  Just when I was about to purchase it, they pulled it.  I suppose that revenue isn't as important as server space???  I was never happy about McDonald Douglas merging with Boeing, and even less happy to see their final glorious design retire from commercial passenger service.  I ended up getting the L-1011 from CS, which is actually pretty decent as far as tri-jets go, albeit it is 70s tech.  That doesn't bother me, though.  When I want a break from flying the only aircraft that feels real to me, the NGX, it's my go-to heavy just to have something different in our virtual skies.  So many Boeings and Airbuses get mundane!  

 

Looking forward to V2 of the 747-400!

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You can still find it in boxed version at some stores. I got mine from Aerosoft's box store during a sale.

 

 

I run legacy FSX.  Just when I was about to purchase it, they pulled it.  I suppose that revenue isn't as important as server space???  I was never happy about McDonald Douglas merging with Boeing, and even less happy to see their final glorious design retire from commercial passenger service.  I ended up getting the L-1011 from CS, which is actually pretty decent as far as tri-jets go, albeit it is 70s tech.  That doesn't bother me, though.  When I want a break from flying the only aircraft that feels real to me, the NGX, it's my go-to heavy just to have something different in our virtual skies.  So many Boeings and Airbuses get mundane!  

 

Looking forward to V2 of the 747-400!


Rui Laureano

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FWIW, I did a reinstall of Windows with FSX:SE as the only FSX on my system over the winter holidays recently.  I installed the MD-11 into it, and it seems to work just fine.  Though I confess, I have not spent a great deal of time flying it around in this setup.

 

Such a shame the MD-11 was such a dud for PMDG.  I rather like the plane.

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As a customer who bought the MD-11, will I still be able to re-download the MD-11 again from the PMDG website then?

According to an answer to the same question in this thread, you will.


Rui Laureano

Lisboa, Portugal

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