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Landing/taxi lights dont illuminate ground at dusk

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Hi all,

 

Not sure if this is specific to just the NGX so I need to do more testing with my other aircraft. It appears the landing and taxi lights dont illuminate the ground at dusk. It seems time specific in terms of when they do, say the start of dusk is 17:00 and it turns to night at 18:00. At 17:00 i dont see the lights on the ground but say 15 mins before 18:00 I do?? The lights are visible on the exterior they just don't illuminate the ground. Difficult to explain, it seems linked to when the airport lights on the terminals and taxi way and runway come on as well. Is this an FSX issue or something specific to me?

 

I have animations checked and the lights illuminate ground option checked in the options. Im using FSX steam edition.

 

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Is this an FSX issue or something specific to me?

 

Have a look at the Intro Manual.

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Thanks....would you like to give me a clue?  I have read all the documentation although it was sometime ago I read the introduction PDF.  I have just done a search for "lights" through the whole document although it is 137 pages long.

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From my experience.. In fsx at dusk.. Or early morning the lighting isn't very bright.. Not realistic at all. After dusk during the onset of actual night... Or almost complete darkness.. The lights actually illuminate the ground.

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In P3D V.3.0 they don't illuminate the runway at all!

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In P3D V.3.0 they don't illuminate the runway at all!

 

Not in P3D version 3.1 either. 

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I've just had confirmation from a pal that the Illumination from the runway lights and taxi lights don't work and he's also using P3D V3.1 so what are you going to do about this PMDG please?

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Have a look at the Intro Manual.

 

I did, and can't find anything on this topic. 

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I've just had confirmation from a pal that the Illumination from the runway lights and taxi lights don't work and he's also using P3D V3.1 so what are you going to do about this PMDG please?

Are you sure its a pmdg issue and not p3d?

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Are you sure its a pmdg issue and not p3d?

 

Someone just  posted on Facebook this morning that this may be a bug in P3D, since not all aircraft produce the runway lighting effects in the same way as PMDG according to PMDG tech support. .That is strange because the OP is outlining the exact same problem with his FSX steam edition. 

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I did, and can't find anything on this topic. 

 

Sorry - got confused between the NGX and 777. In the latter, we have a DAWN/DUSK lighting option.

 

Either way, I don't see that this is the same issue with the old P3D issue (where the landing lights wouldn't show up at all at night).

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This is definitely a PMDG issue because the lights function just fine in my A2A aircraft. Last night I purchased the 737 Immersion package from FSFX and this fixes the problem because their program provides 3D volumetric lighting. I didnt buy it to fix this issue but it was a welcome bonus.

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This is definitely a PMDG issue because the lights function just fine in my A2A aircraft. Last night I purchased the 737 Immersion package from FSFX and this fixes the problem because their program provides 3D volumetric lighting. I didnt buy it to fix this issue but it was a welcome bonus.

 

The A2A aircraft use volumetric lighting as well. I'm failing to see how this is a PMDG "issue."

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Odd... I'm running P3d 3.1 and don't have this issue. The lights illuminate the ground just fine (both landing and taxi), even when I start up during the day (I think. I'll have to do a test to be 100% sure about this). This did not work for me in 3.0, so 3.1 was definitely the fix. I didn't do a complete installation of 3.1, just the Client and the Content.

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Odd... I'm running P3d 3.1 and don't have this issue. The lights illuminate the ground just fine (both landing and taxi), even when I start up during the day (I think. I'll have to do a test to be 100% sure about this). This did not work for me in 3.0, so 3.1 was definitely the fix. I didn't do a complete installation of 3.1, just the Client and the Content.

 

I am still experimenting with this issue. I started two flights today, about 45 minutes before sundown, and the lights worked OK. BTW, I have the Immersion also on P3D V3.1.  Next I am going to start a flight way before dusk starts setting in, and see what happens. What is volumetric lighting? 

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OK I'll try it in a stock aircraft and see what happens.  I just find it really odd that 30 mins before it's "officially dark" in the sim where the light is fading fast I have every bulb on my 737 switched on and I still can't see a thing.


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The issue I reported was using the NGX without the immersion package.  The lights only illuminated the ground when it was "nearly dark".  If you I set the clock to dusk where the light was fading the lights didn't illuminate.  It's only about 15 mins before night time kicks when it did.  Same issue applied to dawn.  I purchased the immersion package over the weekend and this fixes the issues because if the volumetric lighting which greatly enhances the brightness.

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Kyle - would it be possible to update 737 with same option as 777 has ( day light illumination ) ?

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What is volumetric lighting? 

 

That appearance that you're flying through fog. Always.


 

 


OK I'll try it in a stock aircraft and see what happens.  I just find it really odd that 30 mins before it's "officially dark" in the sim where the light is fading fast I have every bulb on my 737 switched on and I still can't see a thing.

 

Screenshot?

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Well I have installed the 737 immersion package now so would have to uninstall and start messing about. I'm not that bothered anymore. Others clearly have the same issue so whether its a PMDG issue or not it would be good to get to the bottom of it.

 

@pete_auau yes I do have REX textures. I did try nearly all the different themes for "landing lights" including the extreme options but this didn't make any difference at dusk.

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I flew a few test flights yesterday which I posted on another thread on this topic.  I started all the flights from a daylight situation and ending at dusk or later. In each case, when it was just starting to get dark, the illumination from landing and taxi lights was minimal at best. When it really began getting dark, then the lights worked well. Not sure if this is a limitation of P3D V3.1 or the 737, but I am satisfied, than when it is really dark and past the beginning of dusk conditions, the lights work normally. Now i have the immersion package installed, so this may affect how this works. 

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Exactly my experience Bob but it is much better with the 737 immersion installed.

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Right despite my previous claims that the 737 immersion pack has enhanced the brightness at dusk after some more testing and fiddling I can confirm this is NOT the case so I'm back to square one.  The 3D volumetric lighting providing by 737 immersion only works in low visibility conditions.  I will post some screenshots as requested to show you exactly what I mean.

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Is the P3D "landing lights illuminate ground" box checked in the Display > Lighting settings?

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Im using FSX Steam edition and yes the equivalent option is ticked.  I can see lights on the ground but only at night, not dusk or dawn.  If I set dusk time to 15 mins before night time kicks in (if that makes sense) I see the lights but for the 45 mins during the transition from dusk to night they are barely visible.  I wouldn't care but I do a lot of night to dawn, day to dusk flying because I enjoy watching the sunrise/sunset so when I land and can't see a thing it kills the immersion.

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