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2nd Annual Tom Allensworth Memorial Flight - Date ~ APR 16 (TBD)

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Why not have an appropriate funnel point or two some distances away through which everyone navigates. Say 100 NM or more distant from Charlottesville. Then participants could be spaced through those enroute. That would allow departures from any number of airports and provide controllers the ability to create better spacing on arrivals.  For example ELK (Elkins, WV) to the N-NW and GSO (Greensboro, NC) to the S-SSW.  Much like using  STARs. 

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Why not have an appropriate funnel point or two some distances away through which everyone navigates. Say 100 NM or more distant from Charlottesville. Then participants could be spaced through those enroute. That would allow departures from any number of airports and provide controllers the ability to create better spacing on arrivals.  For example ELK (Elkins, WV) to the N-NW and GSO (Greensboro, NC) to the S-SSW.  Much like using  STARs. 

Sounds like a good idea. We'll keep that in mind. I may email you, to get more details on how to set that up.

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I have not done a sim fly in yet so do not know about setting it up. The concept I mentioned however is similar to a STAR (Standard Instrument Arrival Route). STARs define instrument routes into an area to the point that they can feed airport approaches.  My thought is that if the inbound aircraft all use an initial approach fix for a runway , which is typically 15nm or closer in to the airport, then spacing becomes a problem.  But if spacing starts farther out in distance the spacing becomes easier to manage. Then if pilots can manage given speeds the spacing can be maintained from there, through the approach, to landing and clearing the runway.  It would be up to the participating controllers to manage it.

 

Anyone with experience on these. How many inbound flights typically participate?

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Found a nice KCHO freeware add-on in the library here on Avsim.

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IF we decide to use VATSIM online for the flight, we might want to engage the local facilities and have them staff-up ATC for us. I am not familiar with the Virginia area as much as I should be, not sure if that field is controlled or not? But, they could put a center and approach controllers up for us.

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Would be remarkable if someone set up a viewing screen in the real world airport!

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I have not done a sim fly in yet so do not know about setting it up. The concept I mentioned however is similar to a STAR (Standard Instrument Arrival Route). STARs define instrument routes into an area to the point that they can feed airport approaches.  My thought is that if the inbound aircraft all use an initial approach fix for a runway , which is typically 15nm or closer in to the airport, then spacing becomes a problem.  But if spacing starts farther out in distance the spacing becomes easier to manage. Then if pilots can manage given speeds the spacing can be maintained from there, through the approach, to landing and clearing the runway.  It would be up to the participating controllers to manage it.

 

Anyone with experience on these. How many inbound flights typically participate?

These are all things we are trying to put together for the flight. Which is why i am started this out this early.


IF we decide to use VATSIM online for the flight, we might want to engage the local facilities and have them staff-up ATC for us. I am not familiar with the Virginia area as much as I should be, not sure if that field is controlled or not? But, they could put a center and approach controllers up for us.

Jb that sounds like a good idea, I'll hit some of the AVSIM staff and see what options we have for this.


Would be remarkable if someone set up a viewing screen in the real world airport!

Yeah that would be. I will email their airport, and let them know what we are planning on doing, and see if they would be interested in putting one up for everyone their to watch.

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Would be remarkable if someone set up a viewing screen in the real world airport!

I sent an email to Melinda Crawford. The director of the airport about setting up a monitor for everyone their to watch. once i hear back from her as to their decision, i will post it here.

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Hey guys!  I look forward to flying this flight on IVAO.  If anyone needs help setting up their IVAO IVAP (flying) client, please do not hesitate to email me at: sam.johnson@ivao.aero

 

We will have ATC online as well.

 

 

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 I recieved an email from Sam Johnson.

 Here is what he said.

My name is Sam Johnson, a IVAO staff member. I am in the public relations department. I would love to see you guys come and fly on IVAO and Vatsim! I think it would be nice to see both networks have traffic for the flight. I am working on supping ATC on IVAO and hope you can inform people about it.

 

 So it looks like we have a great start to making this flight memorable.

 But remember their is still lots we need.

Again

 We need someone to take screens of the flight, or flights, if we do different airports to start from.

 Video of the flight or flights,

 and someone who can convert them for posting to the website.

 

 Also if we use multiple airports as starting points, we need someone to run everything for that starting point, and maybe someone who can put together a rally point for all planes to meet up at in route.

 Were getting their, but their is still lots to do.

 

 If anyone wants to join in on the planning please let me know, and we can get this moving along.

 We do need the help.

 Thank everyone.

 Craig.

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Who has accurate knowledge about how this went down last year. Particularly how many (flying) participants took part? That knowledge would go a long way toward steering the planning.

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We ought to get some pilots who are good at formation flying to do a missing man for Tom and the members we lost this year like DarkstarF16. I can fly formation pretty well,anyone else?

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Who has accurate knowledge about how this went down last year. Particularly how many (flying) participants took part? That knowledge would go a long way toward steering the planning.

Craig (trucker17) has been the mover and shaker on this project from the beginning (and greatly appreciated) - http://www.avsim.com/topic/466265-tom-allensworth-memorial-flight/

 

Best regards,

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Who has accurate knowledge about how this went down last year. Particularly how many (flying) participants took part? That knowledge would go a long way toward steering the planning.

That was me fppilot.

 We had only a few that flew. We had a video set to record, but when all was finished it was to poor to show.

 Their is still a couple of months to go for the planning and execution of the flight this year.

 Last years flight was short about 20 minutes or so.

 Yhis year we are hoping for a much longer flight, with a rally point for all flights.

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Id be very happy to fly this event, probably will take up my Realair Lancair Legacy if the focus is going to be on smaller private planes. Will let some flight sim friends know as well.

 

 

Might I suggest doing it a little later in the day, such as around 6 EST? Would make sure most of us (like me) are out of school/work.

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Thanks That would be a better time. We are still working on all this so once we have a concrete plan well get all the details posted with everything.

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I will fly this event, PDX2530 if on this weekend Apr 16/17 :)  Thanks for doing this, i miss Tom, was a good man. Gary

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Just a toss from left field, but you guys might consider contacting MSFlights. They organize trips like this successfully all the time, do videos of them, have teamspeak servers set up and are also a generally nice bunch of guys who like to fly. Something to maybe consider. http://msflights.net/forum/content.php

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I received a message from MSFlights.

 They will be joing in on the planning of the flights. So we will be putting everything together that we have now and sending to them.

 They have teamspeak servers, and can do the video for the flight. I will see about them doing screens of the flight.

 So we need everyone who has plans for April to give us the dates that are good for you, so we can get a set date.

 The sooner the better on this information everyone. Thanks.

 Craig.

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I received a message from MSFlights.

 They will be joing in on the planning of the flights. So we will be putting everything together that we have now and sending to them.

 They have teamspeak servers, and can do the video for the flight. I will see about them doing screens of the flight.

 So we need everyone who has plans for April to give us the dates that are good for you, so we can get a set date.

 The sooner the better on this information everyone. Thanks.

 Craig.

 

Cool! I know the hardest part of something like this just getting it all organized, and that's what these guys do all the time. Hopefully this will lessen your workload and give you the time to gather and get people excited. It's not just the flight, in things like this, it's the camaraderie, shared interest.... and the great conversations! I haven't flown with them since the start, when it was MSFLIght that was the catalyst, but I've watched them grow and prosper, and knew they would be glad to help!

 

Some of their work:

 

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Sounds great... Trucker17, PM me when we have some solid details, dates, info set, and I will make a custom page here at AVSIM with the latest and greatest so all those who wish to participate can go to one place to get the bullet point details.

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