February 16, 201610 yr As long as Lockheed Martin provides a decent SDK I'll be waiting for the freeware apps to arrive. There aren't many payware addons worth paying for, so I won't worry too much about the cost of new 64 bit versions.It takes me half a year to explore an ORBX region... Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
February 16, 201610 yr Moderator JV of ORBX seems to think that there will be no SDK for freeware developers for the full flight simulation? I hope he's wrong as this would be a huge mistake
February 16, 201610 yr That's why I'll be sticking with Prepar3D for a long time - even though the SDK tools aren't very good. The thing about freeware isn't just that it's free, it's that it often covers areas not covered by payware. If Dovetail won't share the SDK it will be the end of freeware and leave most of the FS world deserted. Also freeware allows addons to be of an artistic nature - meaning no need ti license Cessna or Coca Cola to use their brands to represent the real world. Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
February 16, 201610 yr Moderator Although worrying, I'm taking whatever JV says with a grain of salt, although perhaps he knows something we don't Naturally we will provide developers with all the tools, documentation and support they need to create great new content for this new platform and will be working closely with them during that process. This statement to me looks positive and goes against JV's statement on the ORBX site. Additionally, how would such a decision attract new developers?. People have to learn somewhere, so being allowed to release freeware is a good stepping stone for a future generation of developers.
February 16, 201610 yr Also freeware allows addons to be of an artistic nature - meaning no need ti license Cessna or Coca Cola to use their brands to represent the real world. Some flight simmers desire for absolute accuracy might be a bit of an enemy here. GTA5 can add an aircraft, change a few things, name it a "Biong" instead of a Boeing, and the world moves on. But with demands for absolute accuracy, licensing enters the picture and things get more complicated. Lawyers get invited to play, and suddenly there are people in suits, everywhere. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
February 16, 201610 yr Moderator Some flight simmers desire for absolute accuracy might be a bit of an enemy here. GTA5 can add an aircraft, change a few things, name it a "Biong" instead of a Boeing, and the world moves on. Indeed, I saw something similar with American Truck Simulator which was only released with two trucks because of name licensing issues. Euro Truck Simulator was released with lots of faked names, and this didn't bother anyone (In fact the modding community quickly resolved the issue). It wouldn't bother me at all flying around in in Biong 737, but it would bother me if the cockpit wasn't similar to the real one.
February 16, 201610 yr We will not be updating the flight physics in DTG Flight School, however it is something we are exploring for DTG Flight Simulator. Realism is important to me and physics plays a large part in that. - Steve This is something the community have been wanting for years. It would be good if this happened.
February 16, 201610 yr Remember the weird name aircraft had in Flight Unlimited 2 and 3 ? Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
February 16, 201610 yr ....and they were both better than the MSFS offerings of the time :wink: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
February 16, 201610 yr and they were both better than the MSFS offerings of the time At the time there was Fly, FU, MSFS and XP. I think all had aspects which were great but none of them had everything. I can't remember which aspect of FU everyone liked.
February 16, 201610 yr JV of ORBX seems to think that there will be no SDK for freeware developers for the full flight simulation? I hope he's wrong as this would be a huge mistake Based on what? I followed all possible threads in the last days, asked questions personally both on Steam and Facebook and there is absolutely nothing confirming such speculation. While DTG did not state clearly they will, statements like that already quoted by Poppet and tonywob would suggest the contrary. All we know so far is that both sims will be 64 bit and will also run under Windows 7.
February 16, 201610 yr And Propilot 99 and Fly!2 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
February 16, 201610 yr Moderator Based on what? See here http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/110695-who-else-is-excited-about-the-new-dovetail-sim/?page=3#comment-996980 DTG have not announced an open SDK, and I doubt that they will, nor will there be a freeware community springing up around the sim He seems to be under the impression that there won't be an open SDK and a freeware community. I have no idea why he thinks this, but perhaps he knows something we don't?
February 16, 201610 yr See here http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/110695-who-else-is-excited-about-the-new-dovetail-sim/?page=3#comment-996980 He seems to be under the impression that there won't be an open SDK and a freeware community. I have no idea why he thinks this, but perhaps he knows something we don't? Looks like pure speculation to me. Everything he says about backward compatibility, for example, appears to have been dismissed by DTG answers so far. I see more speculation and personal impression than inside knowledge there.
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