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Megascenery California 4X missing large section of scenery

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Wondered if others have seen the missing section of tiles that covers Los Angeles from the ocean to the end of the scenery to the East. There are 16 files and I installed all of the files. This section is definitely missing.

 

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Do not have any of the 4X yet.  I installed a ton of 2X and Megascenery Ultra cities on a new system in October and as I fly the country I am finding a number of missing "sections".  I sincerely wish they would provide maps with each scenery showing a grid of the sections labeled with numbers relating to the scenery installation files.  It is such a time consuming process to reinstall all of them.

 

I also wish they had cleaned up the color and tone discrepancies between neighboring states before developing deeper res scenery.  

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I haven't taken the 50% offer yet... I have 2X California South and LA-San Diego Ultra.  Does the 4X give me anything those two don't already cover?  I think the res on Ultra Cities is 50 cm and the 4X is the same but for more sq miles?

 

Related question:  Are the LAX and SAN airports in the Ultra Cities package just default airport scenery?  In other words is it worthwhile installing either freeware or payware airports for LAX or SAN if I already have the MSE Ultra?

Thanks,

Bruce

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I haven't taken the 50% offer yet... I have 2X California South and LA-San Diego Ultra.  Does the 4X give me anything those two don't already cover?  I think the res on Ultra Cities is 50 cm and the 4X is the same but for more sq miles?

 

Really good question!

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I just got the product today. The pictures for the product on their website are impressive but I have not seen that clarity yet and it's too early for me to make an assessment. I have the Ultra series too and so far have not seen any difference whatsoever. I figured I would make a mistake buying the scenery but at 50% off decided to give it a try.   Been busy with the Super Bowl and Denver's destruction of Frank's team, the Carolina Panther's.  I was sure they would beat Denver but Denver's defense really showed up tonight.  I'm sure Carolina will not allow that to happen next year as I expect they will be in the Super Bowl next year too.

 

Hopefully MegaScenery developer's will figure out why a whole section of the scenery is missing and get it fixed soon.  It comes with 16 large files and all files were properly installed using the installer that came with the product.

 

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Jim,

Keep us informed. I am also interested in how this new scenery mates to surround MSE sceneries, especially as I mentioned above in regard to color and tone.  I have 47 of the 50 MSE2 states and about 12 UltraRes cities and there are few boundaries between all of them that are not too easily distinguishable. 

 

Per the Super Bowl. A friendly bet is a friendly bet.  Jerry Richardson lost such a bet to John Elway so Jerry will be getting his ride home to Charlotte in Elway's HondaJet. With of course a stop in Denver! LOL!

 

 

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Hi Frank,
 
I just enabled Los Angeles to San Diego Ultra Hi-Res and see no difference in the products.  I enabled both the California Lower South and the Ultra Hi-Res so I could get those tiles I'm missing on the strip covering Los Angeles and you cannot see any difference. 
 
MissingTiles.png
This is the area where the tiles are missing.
WithUltraHiRes.png
This is same area but with Ultra HiRes enabled
NewCalif_Lower4X.png
This is California Lower 4X on flight enroute to Palm Springs
UltraHiRes.png
This is Ultra HiRes of approx the same area

 

I really see no difference.  I also own about 44 US States plus several of the Ultra Hi Res.  I also own Florida 4X.  I wish they would have stated the differences between California Lower 4X's and the Ultra Hi Res scenery in their promotional material.  If anyone owns Ultra Hi Res I would not recommend getting the 4x's for the same area.

 

EDIT:  I took the pictures after placing Ultra HiRes above California Lower 4X and then moving California Lower 4X's above Ultra HiRes in the scenery library as the highest takes precedence.

 

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I also wish they had cleaned up the color and tone discrepancies between neighboring states before developing deeper res scenery.

 

I don't need higher res, I need night lighting.

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EDIT:  I took the pictures after placing Ultra HiRes above California Lower 4X and then moving California Lower 4X's above Ultra HiRes in the scenery library as the highest takes precedence.

 

So forgive me if I'm remembering this wrong but that's also why I want to post in regards to this so that I can correct my own understanding of how photoreal worked if I am indeed remembering this wrong...

 

Does it matter what order in the scenery library photo real is placed?  Won't the highest resolution be chosen regardless?  In other words, if you have both Hi-Res and 4x enabled, you'd see the 4x(assuming that's a higher res than the Hi-Res.  I don't know) regardless of their order.  If that's the case, then that could explain why there appears to be no difference at all.

 

I thought that's how it worked but like I said, maybe I'm remembering it wrong.  Also, I'm not sure if you're in P3D or FSX.  So maybe that's how it works in FSX but not in P3D any more?

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Does it matter what order in the scenery library photo real is placed?  Won't the highest resolution be chosen regardless?  

 

In my case that has not ever been my understanding.  My understanding is that what is higher in the hierarchy (or list, or layers) takes precedence!  

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That was my understanding too Frank but Kevin may be right.  Nevertheless, I did take images with just California 4X enabled and then just LA_San Diego HiRes enabled.  There are some slight color changes but I do not see any difference in resolution.  Note in the HiRes photo, in the horizon, the scenery is not as far out in the distance as California 4X so the California 4X scenery covers a larger area (or appears that is the case):

 

California4X.png

California 4X
LA_SanDiego_UltraHiRes.png

LA_SanDiego HiRes

 

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Jim. 

For me? I primarily fly the TDv2 and MilViz B55 Baron at altitudes ranging from 5,000 to FL 250. Reminds me of a factory representatives presentation about two models of hay balers about 30 years ago. The larger model had a flywheel weighing 450 lbs. The smaller hay baler's flywheel weighed in at about 390 lbs. But he said if you dropped each one on your toes your would not be able to tell the difference....

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It appears the 4X has better color and definitely extends further into the horizon. 

 

Is there water masking on the Pacific Ocean coast?

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Hi Jim, do the 16 files show in your uninstall or change a program file? they should be 1-16 if they all installed. I have had the same problem using the self installer. regards.

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Hi Jim, do the 16 files show in your uninstall or change a program file? they should be 1-16 if they all installed. I have had the same problem using the self installer. regards.

Thanks for the help.  All 16 installers show up in the Add/Remove Programs.  Windows Explorer states there are 779 files.

 

I have had missing tiles in the past but that was before the self-installer and I would simply miss an installer.  In this case, I have gone through the installers and made sure they looked complete.  One anomaly I have seen in the file structure is the fact it appears I'm missing .bgl's 1 through 15.  My file structure starts with:

 

**AR_16.bgl through **AR_66.bgl

**AS_16.bgl through **AS_66.bgl

**AT_16.bgl through **AT_66.bgl

etc., etc.  Where is **AR_1.bgl through **AR_16.bgl?

 

I just checked the download link site and see no additions or changes.  I have sent an e-mail requesting support so will see if there really is a problem.

 

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I just got a response from MegaScenery Customer Service and they just discovered the error in the 009 file and are up-loading it again.  Got the response within 24 hours and can't complain about that!

 

I agree Dean is very helpful and know he frequents these forums.

 

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Jim, let us know when the installer is fixed, please.

It works great.  It wasn't the installer but they found a problem with the 9th file and replaced it.  I did a quick flight after reinstalling the 9th file and everything is back to normal with all tiles present. 

 

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It would be nice if they corrected the MSE2 Northern Ireland photoscenery, but I fear that there is a lot more to sort out than a single file :sad:

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Hi Jim,

 

Is there any difference between MSE2 and 4X as you get closer to the ground during final?. As a side note, why is it so difficult to get access to PC Aviator online forum after purchase?. They don't allow gmail for some reason, I don't keep a local email address because if I move and lose the local provider now I have to notify a ton of people... just not worth the hassle of having a local email address.

 

Still emailing PCAviator trying to get access, I'll keep you posted. Would like to purchase the entire US at 4X, but not if I don't have access to Megascenery's online forum. I'll be spending a lot of money on scenery, I want access to the official site.

 

BTW: Florida 4X looks really nice, however I don't have MSE2 to compare it to!.

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Hi Jim,

 

Is there any difference between MSE2 and 4X as you get closer to the ground during final?. As a side note, why is it so difficult to get access to PC Aviator online forum after purchase?. They don't allow gmail for some reason, I don't keep a local email address because if I move and lose the local provider now I have to notify a ton of people... just not worth the hassle of having a local email address.

 

Still emailing PCAviator trying to get access, I'll keep you posted. Would like to purchase the entire US at 4X, but not if I don't have access to Megascenery's online forum. I'll be spending a lot of money on scenery, I want access to the official site.

 

BTW: Florida 4X looks really nice, however I don't have MSE2 to compare it to!.

I don't look out the cockpit that much on landing so probably the wrong person to ask regarding that question but I will do some research.  With your awesome setup, I'm positive you need a nice view on landing.  I just have a measly Dell 34" Curved monitor at 3440x1440 resolution... :smile:  I have MSE2X and 4X's for Florida so will provide pictures to provide a comparison for you (hopefully within the next hour or two).

 

I'm not sure I'm liking the fact that I'm paying $20 each for California Lower 4X's and California Upper 4X's.  That's at a discount as I purchased MSE2.  So it will be an $80 product (at 50% discount) for all of California.  Then, what's next?  MSE6X?  Then MSE8X's. I suspect 4X's is the best we will see for a long time so I'm probably way off base as usual.  I own almost all of the US states in MSE2X's (43).   I have spent a lot just on California getting Socal several years ago and MSE2 and then the Ultra areas for LA to San Diego and the San Francisco area.  The California Lower and Upper 4X's appears to be much clearer to me and FPS seem to be the same.  I'm not completely satisfied with the mountain next to Palm Springs as it is not a detailed and clear as the one I saw in SoCal but it still looks nice.  Why the major difference I do not know.  

 

I believe PC Aviator got rid of their forums a long time ago.  This is one reason why Tom, at the suggestion of others, decided to set up this Photoscenery Forum.  I do know that PC Aviator visits this forum regularly.  Dean from PC Aviator use to visit and post frequently too and hope he comes back and provides more help to our membership.  As I recall, Megascenery forums, when they were active, were supported by individuals like me who helped others when they had questions.  Rarely did anyone from PC Aviator or Megascenery post and that upset many.  So, I strongly recommend you simply continue to post here.  When I had the trouble with the missing tiles above, I sent it via gmail to megasceneryearth@pcaviator.com and PC Aviator Customer Support responded with a solution to my problem in less than a day.  I did enter my name and order number to prove I owned the product and that may have made a difference.

 

I'll get back to you soon!

 

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BTW: Florida 4X looks really nice, however I don't have MSE2 to compare it to!.

 

Okay Mike, I deleted my MSE2 Florida after I installed MSE4 but I still have MSE2 Southern Calif so I can compare it with MSE4 California Lower.  These images were taken at about 850 feet.  I think you can tell the 4X's are clearer and show more detail (but still a bit blurry)(still better)...

 

First MSE2X's -

 

2XMSESouthernCalifornia.png

 

And then MSE4X's

 

4xLowerCalif.png

 

MSE2X's

2XMSESouthernCalifornia_01.png

 

and lastly 4X's

4xLowerCalif_01.png

 

Hope this helps.

 

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