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Why the Windows Store is BAD news for PC users

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SLI isn't exactly modern tech. It's been around since 2004.

 

I was referring to the CPU's and Motherboards that have enough PCIe lanes to support 16x 2 way SLI or even 3 way SLI on Gen3 buses. 


Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

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This places me between the proverbial rock and hard place.  I am recovering from a crash of Windows 10 and the Windows Store is not too attractive.  I downloaded FSX-SE from Just Flight and had a terrible experience.  Steam had only mechanical customer support, and involved over 30 mechanical emails to crutch it for another couple of months.  As I only paid $7.49 for it, I deleted it.  I don't feel like going round 3 with Steam.  Where to next? P3D or X plane ????????

 

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Jim Elder

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Good thing nobody is forcing you to use it.


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Thats probably why I bought Tomb Raider for 12 AUD on the Ukraine store (you can change the store home and the prices will also reflect that).

 

I haven't even played it because of the disaster of Windows Store. 


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Seems Microsoft are getting more like Apple...


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This places me between the proverbial rock and hard place.  I am recovering from a crash of Windows 10 and the Windows Store is not too attractive.  I downloaded FSX-SE from Just Flight and had a terrible experience.  Steam had only mechanical customer support, and involved over 30 mechanical emails to crutch it for another couple of months.  As I only paid $7.49 for it, I deleted it.  I don't feel like going round 3 with Steam.  Where to next? P3D or X plane ????????

 

All the Best:

Jim Elder

 

What issues were you having? You can usually find fixes yourself, a you probably do with flight simulation, on the internet. Secondly, if you are having an issue with the steam program itself then you contact steam, otherwise you go to the application developer of the app you purchased. Their support is usually not automated. 

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Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

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Oh dear

This might be a deal breaker for me as I am not a fan of Steam.

As a previous poster said you can run in offline mode as long as you set it while online however this only works for 7 days I believe ,then you must go back online again.

The offline feature was 'fixed' several years ago, according to one of the Steam developers.

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The offline feature was 'fixed' several years ago, according to one of the Steam developers.

 

I did a test just now.

 

1. I made sure that Steam was offline (haven't used it for a couple of days)

2. disconnected my internet (I use cable-tv broadband).

3. tried to start steam and it said that it couldn't connect to servers.

4. chosed "start in offline mode".

5, steam started just fine and I could play any game I wanted.

 

So yeah the offline function have been fixed.

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The "Windows Store" is a joke. And it has been a joke ever since Windows 8 launched in 2012.

 

Microsoft keeps trying to push their "apps" on desktops in an attempt to unify their unwanted mobile phone OS with desktops. Who the hell wants this? Why would I want to run a desktop program on a phone, or a phone "app" on my desktop? I don't see it.

 

With Windows 10, MS introduced their so-called "universal Windows apps" (UWP) that are written in the same Windows Runtime architecture instead of Win32/64. As the OP of this thread pointed out, these "apps" are extremely limited and simply cannot compare to a regular program as Win32. Some say MS's ultimate, distant-future goal is to create a "walled garden" in Windows, in which the user can only get third party software through the "Windows Store" and nowhere else (including regular programs), similar to iOS or Android with the App Store and Google Play store.

 

Whatever they're trying to do, all I know is that reinventing the wheel is not necessary... 

 

What's ironic is that Microsoft themselves said they don't want to compete with Steam with their "Windows Store" garbage in August 2015, yet here they are, restricting their games to their store only.  http://www.techtimes.com/articles/75531/20150810/microsoft-says-it-isnt-intending-to-compete-with-steam-with-windows-10.htm

 

 

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I actually enjoy the Windows Store.

I have found some great utilities there, quite a few of free movie apps, (no more Netflix).

Its like the Android store, you have to look & find the decent stuff.


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I haven't even glanced at the windows store. Not remotely interested. Microsoft Flight and the shutdown of GFWL is the last time I will let MS lure me into trusting them on any long term project that they can then walk away from without a backward glance, leaving people high and dry.

 

Since Mr Gates left, they have the corporate attention span of a butterfly.


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Dunno what the problem is..... but..

You using a linux box? Seeing that you so anti MS..


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Dunno what the problem is.

 

Principles 

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Principles 

 

Yep. I might use the Windows OS, but that doesn't make me love everything Microsoft does.

 

For what it's worth, and probably not directly applicable to DTG's new flight sims unless they choose to use the UWP feature -- here's an article published on the Guardian web site titled "Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must Fight It" by the Co-Founder of Epic Games:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-games-development-epic-games-gears-of-war?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

 

It might help explain why some of the hostility to the Windows Store isn't just knee jerk anti-MS sentiment. 

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Yep. I might use the Windows OS, but that doesn't make me love everything Microsoft does.

 

For what it's worth, and probably not directly applicable to DTG's new flight sims unless they choose to use the UWP feature -- here's an article published on the Guardian web site titled "Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must Fight It" by the Co-Founder of Epic Games:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-games-development-epic-games-gears-of-war?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech

 

It might help explain why some of the hostility to the Windows Store isn't just knee jerk anti-MS sentiment. 

 

I was literally just about to post this same article. Mr. Sweeney is a MAJOR player in the gaming space as the Co-Founder of Epic games and one of the original engineers of the Unreal Engine, Gears of War, etc. So I think his words are more powerful than just about anyone elses in the industry. 

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Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

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