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I wonder how FSX handles time zones.......

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Who knew it was so complicated........!

 

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great video with a laugh !

 

reminds me of something we all would have experienced ....driving near / across a timezone boundary but about 50kms before that, your cell/mobile locks on to the time of your destination (as that is now the closer transmission tower).

for now, cheers

john martin

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In case you were interested...

 

FSX uses 15 degree divisions instead of the actual geographic boundaries for the time zones.

 

Many of us fly FSX in Realtime (Computer time, so long as it's updated), or addon software, or FSINN to get the correct time for where we are flying and any of these works terrifically.

 

Best wishes.

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

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In case you were interested...

 

FSX uses 15 degree divisions instead of the actual geographic boundaries for the time zones.

 

Many of us fly FSX in Realtime (Computer time, so long as it's updated), or addon software, or FSINN to get the correct time for where we are flying and any of these works terrifically.

 

Best wishes.

 

Interesting. I wonder how it does historical dates.....

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Who knew it was so complicated........!

maybe for this guy but not for pilots, they (should) use UTC time and all these problems disappear. Problem of time zones really is not part of aviation, it is for passengers to figure out what the local time is when they disembark.  :Confused:

Michael J.

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maybe for this guy but not for pilots, they (should) use UTC time and all these problems disappear. Problem of time zones really is not part of aviation, it is for passengers to figure out what the local time is when they disembark.  :Confused:

Very true. The only real reason it matters for us is synchronizing the position of the sun for reslism and for shared cockpit.

Dave Hodges

 

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Very true. The only real reason it matters for us is synchronizing the position of the sun for reslism and for shared cockpit.

 

I guess it depends on the degree of accuracy required. When looking up this stuff, I started thinking about this video (and leap seconds) all over again. (as my eyes slowly began to glaze)   :lol:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time

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LOL!

Dave Hodges

 

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Whether for the sun or a shared cockpit, can't you just set the desired proper utc in fsx?

FYI:  The only time scales that matter are GPS and TAI; neither of which is affected by leap seconds.  All other time scales flows from these and cause their associated confusion.  I work in aerospace and all our systems use GPS time for this reason.

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Whether for the sun or a shared cockpit, can't you just set the desired proper utc in fsx?

 

You certainly can. However there are those who strive for realism, using the correct time for the time of day would be important.  It becomes more or less automatic when they are have the computer time syn'd to a source like the Naval Observatory (or others).

 

In the end, simulator time is what we want from it!

Dave Hodges

 

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I still don't understand how setting the local time adds to realism. As long as the correct utc for the locality is being used, then the sun is in the correct place. How does local time affect realism in this sim?

Especially since governments have been whimsically playing with daylight savings, the difference between utc and local time may not be correct in msfs. So if you set your sim by local time, you might be wondering why it's dark outside while the sun is still up in the sim.

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