Honolulu 1959 Scenery Released

[tgibson 11]

Hi all,So you can begin your "The High and the Mighty" flight properly, I've released a scenery package for Honolulu as it was in 1959 (before the opening of the new terminal in very late 1962). You will finish the flight at my 1959 SFO, of course (part of the California 1959/1962 scenery package).It uses the same scenery folders as the California 1959/1962 scenery, so the installation for those who have that installed will be very easy.I've also eliminated the skyscrapers in the area, and reduced the size of the city to backdate the area to 1959.http://www.calclassic.com/Temp/phnl.jpgThe "Aloha tower" lights up at night:http://www.calclassic.com/Images/phnl_night.jpgAvailable on my Scenery page.Enjoy,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

[zfehr 1]

Absolutely beautiful and what a truly neat idea... now to go get another hard drive!

[Guest Kilstorm McBride]

It would be nice if in the next version of FS they added a retro sim that could be installed with the main version. Basically it would be a lite version of FS with building textures being more back in the day style and some AI planes of back in the day but basically what it would do is make it where you could easily have the ability to add scenery like this with out messing up your current version. I know that you can install two version of FS onto a computer but it always messes up the regeristry for when ou add add-ons they look at the wrong file and just seems to be a pain.It would just be nice to have two icons to click on that were for two different FS and they didnt share anything so there would be no problems and a user could have a selection of old timming it or flying in todays world. With the abilty to add secenery and utilies seperatly without sharing or conflicts.Kilstorm

[zfehr 1]

Hi Kilstorm,This is why using the date sensitivity of the bgl files would be so useful. You wouldn't have to use two different installs or even have to switch anything. Just select the date in which you want to fly and scenery as well as traffic takes care of itself. It's already made so you can do this, just no-one has utilized the feature yet.

[Guest Kilstorm McBride]

When I was typing out that post I was thinking about using date and time as a way to do it but then got to thining about how long it would take to rebuild the files when going back in time to lets say the 1930's or what have you.So your saying that it is possible to set a date of the 50's and if some one has design scenery with the bgl file to be time senitive it will switch out the scenery? Sounds good but it just seems that with the afcad files, ai traffic files, ai repaints and planes and then the possiblity of landclass and terrian files not to mention scenery files it would take a real long to load. But I dont know and it would be like you were going to be hoping back in forth from past to present 5 times a day.One thing is for sure and that is when the next version comes out I will be transforming fs9 into this kinda of scenery and ai files. Kilstorm

[tgibson 11]

Hi,It wouldn't take any longer than it does when you load the sim the first time after changing something in the scenery library (and it says "updating database", etc.). The big problem right now is that the MS default scenery is NOT set to disappear when you set the date back to the 1950's, so you still need a mechanism to remove it (i.e. exclude files, etc.), and the time based features are not easy to use (i.e. not supported by scenery programs, etc.).Take care,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___

[zfehr 1]

>The big problem right now is that the MS default scenery is>NOT set to disappear when you set the date back to the 1950's,>so you still need a mechanism to remove it (i.e. exclude>files, etc.), and the time based features are not easy to use>(i.e. not supported by scenery programs, etc.).Exactly Tom... that is why this feature hasn't been really developed much because of the time involved to change EVERYTHING out. Hopefully in the next version this may be something Microsoft entertains (to a certain extent). My suggestion has been a decade sensitive feature so the 30's, 40's, 50's, etc each have a set of visual features and AI traffic making them unique, this would be the most feasible given time and cost of programming.

[Guest Kilstorm McBride]

Im laughing at the fact they they could go all they back to the turn of the century and have just the wright flyer with no AI and a more bare landscape...but who wants to fly FS98 again?! :D It is good to see options that can achieve this and hope that these history developers or retro developers (btw what do you guys call your self for this thype of great scenery?) keep producing scenery, AI and flight plan files. Because I am sure that I will start converting FS9 into this retro era once the new version is out. BTW if you wanted to delete an airport so you have less airports like back in the day, whats the best way to go about it? Remove the afcad file, remove the airport from the list using TTool?Kilstorm

[tgibson 11]

Hi,I don't know of a tool that will remove a default airport from the listing, although I think you can do that with XML by hand coding.The closest I've come is to use ExcBuilder to wipe it out visually. But in AFCAD you might be able to create a file with nothing in it and have that work as well. You might even be able give it a different name and specify some bizarre country, city, etc. so it doesn't even come up in searches.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___