New PC Build for FSX\P3D

[Tino 80]

Good afternoon,

 

After lurking these forums for a while, I though it was time to ask for suggestions on my new build. Currently, I'm looking for a system that's under $2000 CAD that can run FSX or P3D very well. 

 

I have looked on various sites regarding the best parts for FSX\P3D and tried to match the best I could for my budget. Here is my current parts list (In Canadian Dollars):

 

Intel Core i7-6700K Quad-Core Processor - $460.98

Corsair H80i GT Liquid CPU Cooler - $99.33

Asus Z170-A ATX LGA 1151 Motherboard - $207.25

G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory - $119.99

Crucial BX200 480GB 2.5" SSD - $154.99

EVGA Geforce GTX980 4GB Superclocked Video Card - $693.98

Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case - $64.00

Corsair CX-750W 80+Modular Power Supply - $94.98

LG Standard DVD\CD Writer - $16.85

Asus Xonar DS 24bit 192KHz Sound Card 7.1 - $59.88  (Will try on-board sound first)

Asus PCE-N15 802.11b\g\n Wireless Card - $34.33

 

Total (CAD): $1932.57 (After mail-in rebate)

 

Now my questions is, are there any parts that I could possibly change in order to reduce the overall cost but, not affect performance? I know that it's difficult to say what the outcome will be since all systems are different. 

 

Any comments are welcome.

 

Thanks for your time. 

[Glynn 405]

Now my questions is, are there any parts that I could possibly change in order to reduce the overall cost

 

Asus Xonar DS 24bit 192KHz Sound Card 7.1 - $59.88

Asus PCE-N15 802.11b\g\n Wireless Card - $34.33

[Tino 80]

Asus Xonar DS 24bit 192KHz Sound Card 7.1 - $59.88

Asus PCE-N15 802.11b\g\n Wireless Card - $34.33

 

Thanks for your reply Glynn.

 

Are these replaceable for a cheaper option? I'm looking to get 7.1 Audio and require a wireless network card. Do you have any suggestions? 

 

Thank you. 

[Glynn 405]

The Asus Z170-A ATX LGA 1151 already has pretty good on board 7.1 audio so you don't need to spend $60 on another Asus sound solution.

 

Audio Realtek® RTL892 8-channel high definition audio featuring Crystal Sound 3
- Separate layer for left and right track, ensuring both sound deliver equal quality
- Top notch audio sensation delivers according to the audio configuration
- Audio shielding ensures precise analog/digital separation and greatly reduced multi-lateral interference
- EMI protection cover to prevent electrical noise to affect the amplifier quality
- Audio Amplifier to enhance the highest quality sound for headphone and speakers
- Unique de-pop circuit to reduce start-up popping noise to audio outputs
- Premium Japan-made audio capacitors provides warm, natural, and immersive sound with exceptional clarity and fidelity
- Absolute Pitch 192khz/24bit true BD lossless sound
- DTS® Studio SoundTM
- DTS® Connect
- Supports jack-detection, multi-streaming, front panel jack-retasking (MIC)
- Optical S/PDIF out port at back I/O

[Tino 80]

The Asus Z170-A ATX LGA 1151 already has pretty good on board 7.1 audio so you don't need to spend $60 on another Asus sound solution.

 

Audio Realtek® RTL892 8-channel high definition audio featuring Crystal Sound 3

- Separate layer for left and right track, ensuring both sound deliver equal quality

- Top notch audio sensation delivers according to the audio configuration

- Audio shielding ensures precise analog/digital separation and greatly reduced multi-lateral interference

- EMI protection cover to prevent electrical noise to affect the amplifier quality

- Audio Amplifier to enhance the highest quality sound for headphone and speakers

- Unique de-pop circuit to reduce start-up popping noise to audio outputs

- Premium Japan-made audio capacitors provides warm, natural, and immersive sound with exceptional clarity and fidelity

- Absolute Pitch 192khz/24bit true BD lossless sound

- DTS® Studio SoundTM

- DTS® Connect

- Supports jack-detection, multi-streaming, front panel jack-retasking (MIC)

- Optical S/PDIF out port at back I/O

 

Well, that's a relief. I always thought onboard audio wasn't as good as a dedicated sound card. I guess i'll give it a try and purchase a card afterwards if I feel it's not performing well enough. 

 

Thanks for the information. 

[max2770 74]

TBH within $20 of your budget, this is what I'd do for a much more flexible and overclockable system.  Feel free to ask anything you'd like, my current build is very, very close to that.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($460.98 @ DirectCanada) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($123.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($279.25 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($113.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($203.25 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card  ($641.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.98 @ NCIX) 

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer  ($16.68 @ DirectCanada) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Total: $2019.01

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-18 16:05 EDT-0400

[Tino 80]

 

TBH within $20 of your budget, this is what I'd do for a much more flexible and overclockable system.  Feel free to ask anything you'd like, my current build is very, very close to that.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($460.98 @ DirectCanada) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($123.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($279.25 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($113.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($203.25 @ Vuugo) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4GB Twin Frozr Video Card  ($641.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.98 @ NCIX) 

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer  ($16.68 @ DirectCanada) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter  ($34.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Total: $2019.01

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-18 16:05 EDT-0400

 

 

Thanks Max,

 

I'll take a look and reply back with any questions I have. 

 

Much appreciated!

[europrodave 24]

Hi Tino.

I live in Halifax, NS and am wanting to pull the trigger on a very similar set up.  Price point is right where I'm looking also.

Have you got your rig built yet?  Let us know how you like it please.

Best regards.

David Bell

[max2770 74]

Hi Tino.

I live in Halifax, NS and am wanting to pull the trigger on a very similar set up.  Price point is right where I'm looking also.

Have you got your rig built yet?  Let us know how you like it please.

Best regards.

David Bell

 

I built myself this system, which is very close:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($465.03 @ Amazon Canada) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($130.17 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($299.72 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($104.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($257.97 @ Newegg Canada) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($208.92 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($146.98 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($220.30 @ DirectCanada) 

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer  ($18.97 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $1853.04

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 11:44 EDT-0400

 

I kept my GTX970 that I will replace with a 1080 if it's what I'm looking for.

 

Runs very cool and stable at 4.5GHz, but I'll push to 4.8 at least (bought the Intel performance plan just for that).

 

It's an absolute beast of a system, it's perfect.

[europrodave 24]

 

 

I built myself this system, which is very close:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($465.03 @ Amazon Canada) 

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($130.17 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($299.72 @ Vuugo) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($104.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($257.97 @ Newegg Canada) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($208.92 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($146.98 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($220.30 @ DirectCanada) 

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer  ($18.97 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $1853.04

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-01 11:44 EDT-0400

 

I kept my GTX970 that I will replace with a 1080 if it's what I'm looking for.

 

Runs very cool and stable at 4.5GHz, but I'll push to 4.8 at least (bought the Intel performance plan just for that).

 

It's an absolute beast of a system, it's perfect.

 

 

Hi Max.

Did you build it or have a business build it for you?  Overclocked yourself?  I don't have any experience in building a computer and would prefer to have someone who knows what they are doing to get the most out of the rig.  With those specs, what would you suggest I do as far as looking for someone professional to do the build?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

David Bell

[martin-w 3,234]

Don't forget David, all of us were in the same postion as you at one time.

 

If you ever want to be capable of building a PC there's always a first time.

 

Some people aren't technically minded though and wish to avoid such things.

[AnkH 2,233]

I will never understand why people continue to buy this, well, overprized all-in-one watercooling solutions. A proper noctua air cooler is almost as good as at least an H100, yet it is less expensive and you do not have to replace the stock fans. Most people also complain about the noise of the water pump after one year of use or they complain about the noise of the fans mounted to the radiators directly after installing it. Yes, for overclocking, an all-in-one cooling solution from the H100 upwards offers some advantages over a good quality air cooling solution and you do not have to bother about the RAM installation, but besides that, no, no reason for those cooling solutions.

[martin-w 3,234]

I will never understand why people continue to buy this, well, overprized all-in-one watercooling solutions. A proper noctua air cooler is almost as good as at least an H100, yet it is less expensive and you do not have to replace the stock fans. Most people also complain about the noise of the water pump after one year of use or they complain about the noise of the fans mounted to the radiators directly after installing it. Yes, for overclocking, an all-in-one cooling solution from the H100 upwards offers some advantages over a good quality air cooling solution and you do not have to bother about the RAM installation, but besides that, no, no reason for those cooling solutions.

Yep, I'm with you there. We're on the same page.

 

You do realize that a multitude of AIO fans could possibly arrive and kick are arse's for saying so, as we all love to defend our choices. :smile:

 

Seriously though, much of it is about good marketing. Yes, one or two of the top of the range AIO coolers, like the H110, manage to cool better than the Noctua at similar noise levels. But on the other hand, many of them are a bit of a cheat, as they come equipped with high RPM noisy fans. Whereas the NH-D15 cools great with slower RPM quiet fans. For that reason, when comparing AIO's to the Noctua or any air cooler, we should eliminate the fan variable and just consider the heat sink thermal efficiency. We can all install any fans we like.

 

When we do that, not many AIO's beat the Noctua. No pump to fail, not pump to become noisy, zero chance of leaks and no moving parts.

 

And if you do mange to cool your CPU a few degrees cooler with an AIO, what does that get you? A 100 MHz higher overclock? Two hundred MHz? Perhaps three? Which translates to two or three frames per second in games.

 

Yes, for overclocking, an all-in-one cooling solution from the H100 upwards offers some advantages over a good quality air cooling solution and you do not have to bother about the RAM installation, but besides that, no, no reason for those cooling solutions.

 

To be honest we don't have to worry too much about RAM installation either now. Now that the NH-D15S has been released. Much better RAM clearance. Not that super tall RAM heat sinks have a purpose. Super tall RAM heat sinks are a gimmick. Again, a marketing ploy.

 

Another point is that if an AIO fails your CPU overheats and shuts down. If an NH-D 15 fan fails as long as you aren't stressing the CPU Heavily, it continues to cool pasively.

[europrodave 24]

Don't forget David, all of us were in the same postion as you at one time.

 

If you ever want to be capable of building a PC there's always a first time.

 

Some people aren't technically minded though and wish to avoid such things.

 

Thanks for the encouragement.  But the last two reply just went over my head.  I will continue to do research and figure out what to do.

Best regards.

David bell

[APOST1972 0]

Hi to all,

My current desktop setup is:

CPU intel Dual Core 2 Duo E7600(3,06GHz) overclocked to 3,57GHz LGA775

RAM DDR2 3GB 800MHZ

GPU PALIT GTX750 2GB

Its running FSX at about 12-15FPS and I'd like a better performance...

 

Is it worth to change to LGA1150 Intel Pentium G3460 3,5GHz with RAM 4GB 1600MHz and SSD(Operating Systema and FSX in same partition) ???

 

Thanks a lot

 

P.S.(If you have a better suggestion pls tell me , but not expensive...)