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I was under the impression that HF3 was pretty much focused only on fixing SLI issues but the post a few up from here seems to show a number of fixes/improvements re: shaders/lighting so is it the recommendation of the Yuri and Adam to upgrade to this new version of P3D ?

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I was under the impression that HF3 was pretty much focused only on fixing SLI issues but the post a few up from here seems to show a number of fixes/improvements re: shaders/lighting so is it the recommendation of the Yuri and Adam to upgrade to this new version of P3D ?

I'm not using SLI and found no difference between hf2 and hf3 so far.

 

Cheers,

 

(upd.: typo)

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I'm not using SLI and found no difference between hf3 and hf3 so far.

 

Cheers,

OK, thanks.

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Hi Yuri,

 

Great software however, the video bears no resemblance to the file I downloaded today.  Any advice please?

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Announcement - new preset: adam_20-10

My first (!) preset for Yuri's new PTA 2.10 beta:

 

pta_2010_01_1350.jpg

 

pta_2010_02_1350.jpg
 

Fixed the night lighting/street lighting.

"No popcorn" tweak now varies with altitude.

Aircraft lighting (new). Set to use both VC and external model.

Water saturation (new).

Water reflection reduced in strength a little. Varies with altitude.

Download here: Adam_PTA_20_10.

Many thanks, Yuri!

 

Adam.

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Great software however, the video bears no resemblance to the file I downloaded today.  Any advice please?

Hi Dave!

You mean the video on main page of site 1coder.ru/PTA ?  Yes, Ben made this stunning media in times PTA version 1.4 release. 

Although the general principles has not changed since then, definitelty the video need to be updated.

Thanks for input!


 

 


My first (!) preset for Yuri's new PTA 2.10 beta:

Thanks for your presets, Adam!

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Problems with PTA v.2.10 beta:  Going from PTA 2.04 to 2.10 beta I was shown the well known "unable to detect the original cloud.fsx file in P3D SHADERS folder". Strange,- it was no problem with earlier versions. I installed the update3 however in P3D since I downloaded v.2.10. Nevertheless I can still load with PTA 2.04. So how to solve this???

Regards

Odaber

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Thanks for your presets, Adam!

 

Always a pleasure - but especially when PTA helps to nail that long-standing P3D gripe of mine - "oily black water"!!

 

BTW, folks - if anyone cares to add any feedback on preset 20_10, I'd welcome it. Don't feel coy about criticising it (I have a thick skin!) but I'd like, if possible, to keep it out of this thread (already 56 pages!). Please use this one: http://www.avsim.com/topic/490178-prepar3d-tweak-assistant-pta-screenshots-presets/page-15#entry3566145

 

Adam.

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Problems with PTA v.2.10 beta:  Going from PTA 2.04 to 2.10 beta I was shown the well known "unable to detect the original cloud.fsx file in P3D SHADERS folder". Strange,- it was no problem with earlier versions. I installed the update3 however in P3D since I downloaded v.2.10. Nevertheless I can still load with PTA 2.04. So how to solve this???

Regards

 

Hi Odaber!

Maybe you made some adjustments in REX? If so, please restore original shader here:

 

cloudsizin_6187752_24772406.jpg

 

if you're not using REX, please see PM

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Thank You so very much!! To send me the original file was the Clue!!!

With Regards

Odaber

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PTA 2.10 beta updated to PTA 2.10 beta 2.

Changes:
- Tweak "Aircraft lighting" renamed to "Aircraft lighting & saturation".[/size]
- New parameter for Aircraft lighting & saturation tweak: "Saturation" - the separate saturation adjustment for a/c.

All presets from PTA 2.XX are compatible.

How to upgrade:
delete old PTA.exe from your PTA 2.0X directory, unzip PTA.exe from new distribution archive.
Then apply your preset.

Regards,

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Yuri, with beta 2, I've loaded at least 4 different presets and none of them fill out the allocated settings. All boxes stay cleared it keeps looking like nothing is loaded. However the log box at bottom does say the expected .ini was loaded. If I wanted to adjust a setting in a preset. there is no data to adjust.

 

*edit...forget the above, I downloaded Adams recent preset and everything is registering, I guess the new beta doesn't utilize any of previous presets.

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I guess the new beta doesn't utilize any of previous presets.

In beta 2 when preset is opened, the tool switches active page to "Options & preset comments". But all checkboxes in the left panel should work as usual. New beta doesn't utilize only new parameters.

No issues here.

Could you please give me an additional info about the issue and how you got it?

Thanks!

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About all I can say is that with last version of PTA I had adams 20-09 preset loaded. I replaced the new beta PTA .exe and adams 20-09 preset was still loaded ( I didn't change it ) and there was no checks in any of the parameter boxes. I tried loading your dynamic preset that you offered on another forum (link was in this thread) log box said it was loaded, but again there were no parameters with check boxes checked, nor were there any parameters listed that could be adjusted. Tried with another preset, same thing. Finally loaded Adams newest 20-10 preset, then all of his settings showed up with appropriate check boxes and parameters that one could adjust. Tried you "dynamic" preset again and nothing listed. put back in Adams 20-10 .ini and again the preset applied and all parameters  were supplied. Only Adams 20-10 preset seems to work correctly 

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Jim ... and everyone else ...

 

I've just replaced my 20_10 preset with one that includes Yuri's new aircraft lighting & saturation tweak. No other changes, so previous 20_10 downloaders aren't really missing anything.

 

Here's a snow pic for a change!

 

pta_2010_08_1350bafe5.jpg

 

Adam.

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About all I can say is that with last version of PTA I had adams 20-09 preset loaded. I replaced the new beta PTA .exe and adams 20-09 preset was still loaded ( I didn't change it ) and there was no checks in any of the parameter boxes. I tried loading your dynamic preset that you offered on another forum (link was in this thread) log box said it was loaded, but again there were no parameters with check boxes checked, nor were there any parameters listed that could be adjusted. Tried with another preset, same thing. Finally loaded Adams newest 20-10 preset, then all of his settings showed up with appropriate check boxes and parameters that one could adjust. Tried you "dynamic" preset again and nothing listed. put back in Adams 20-10 .ini and again the preset applied and all parameters  were supplied. Only Adams 20-10 preset seems to work correctly 

Thanks. I'll check it out.

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Here's a snow pic for a change!

Hi Adam,

 

Perfect, the clarity and vibrancy jumps out at you! Beautiful! I have been holding back from commenting about your previous Preset but I think you may have read my mind!

 

At first I had the feeling that something wasn't quite right. The images I was seeing were good, in fact very good, but their was something lacking. They weren't hitting me with quite the same wow response as your 20_09 Preset. Then I changed season to Winter and was disappointed to see the snow had taken on a grey/off-white colouration. I was running with fair weather so switched to clear skies but that didn't seem to make a lot of difference. Currently I am exploring Iceland (ORBX) in the Summer and flew my first leg (1/2 hour) before packing up for the night. Again, the Scenery looked very good and I don't think I could fault the appearance of water around the coast flying east from Keflavik. Still, I have that nagging impression that it could be better in some way. Maybe I need to test more in other locations.

 

Perhaps I am being too picky, but I just have the feeling that something is not quite right. I'm using your recommended HDR settings for 20_10 (the previous Preset) with PTA 2.10 beta2). Also, P3D and GPU drivers are current (see signature).

 

Knowing how important the choice of Sky textures can be in the visual equation I am now wondering whether I have become too wedded to the ENVTEX offerings. These seemed to have delivered well with all your previous Presets so have felt reluctant to rock the boat needlessly. Maybe I should be thinking now about ringing the changes?

 

I'll try again with your latest 20_10 Preset and report back. Can you provide the map parameters, weather, season and time of day for the location and I will try to reproduce your last image and see what turns up?

 

Regards,

Mike

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Mike ... are you saying that your P3D looks a bit "flat" or "dull"? Genuine question, as I sometimes see PTA screenshots from other people that look a bit "tired" to me ... and (I hate to say it) I think some of them may be using my preset(s).

 

I've been thinking for a while now that I should really set up a scenario that could be used by other people so we could [all] compare. The only problem is that I sold my soul to ORBX - and I'm running many of their add-on sceneries. I also have FTX Global and the complete FS Global/Open LC stuff installed, so any location outside of ORBX add-ons isn't going to be exactly default P3D. Disabling any of these isn't really something I want to do ...

 

... so ... this "test" scenario may end up having to be in an ORBX area - and a popular one at that. We'd also need to settle on sky textures (most important) and then cloud textures - as these can play a major part in colouring. I can't create an archive with either my REX (sky) or FEX (cloud) textures for copyright reasons.

 

One solution could be to settle on one of Gennadiy's single day textures (a *neutral* one, if possible) and take test shots in clear weather. However - we'd have similar problems with *water* textures, LOL!

 

As FTX NZNI or NZSI are my favourite FTX add-ons, it'd be nice to know if there are many others active here that also have them - or it there's another area that could be a contender.

 

Mike - do you have FTX NZ? If Gennadiy is reading this ... which of your day textures would you recommend as the most balanced/neutral? I tried both "Meditation" and "Antarktic" ... but found them slightly saturated/blue.

 

Adam.

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Gentleman, I've got to gently remind you to remember the differences in monitor settings.

I rarely find someones presets to be totally agreeable with what I remember seeing in GA flying.

 

The best ones so far have been Adams 20-10, but only after discovering my gamma was wrong ( using testing programs on the web) and I had to balance out brightness and contrast.

 

When I first used the 20-10 preset, it was as usual, just so-so, only different. Then on a whim I checked Nvidia control panel and I was using Nvidia to to control color (which of course I had adjusted to my liking). Just for fun I set it back to programs control. Closed control panel out to desktop and holy cow was my screen drab. I used monitor menu to brighten it back up.

 

Then I loaded up P3D and still using Adams 20-10 preset......P3D was drab. So, I paused P3D, pulled up monitor menu and watched P3D screen while adjusting monitor again. After a few minutes I had what I believe I'm not going to change. The brights that I was expecting for 2 pm on a sparse cloudy day was there, the shadows that I expected were there. I was thrilled to be seeing all this. It's a shame that in 2017, we can't get uniform color, saturation, hue, contrast and gamma but it's just not possible.

 

Wasn't all that a "hoot"?

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I rarely find someones presets to be totally agreeable with what I remember seeing in GA flying.

 

I totally agree. Our eyes are *amazing* at accommodating (and compensating for) all sorts of contrasts and colours. However - I often see great photographs (from RL - not a sim) that *do* seem to capture exactly how the colours were, or how I'd imagine the colours to be ... so theoretically ... it *ought* to be possible - even in a sim!!! We know it can, because I'm sure we've all seen the odd screenshot and did the dreaded "double-take" ... but it's quite rare, IMHO.

 

As to system or monitor setup/calibration - what a minefield!!! Not much we can do about it all, unless calibration devices come down to $5 each! I agree - the best we can hope for is to arrive at a fairly accurate palette that works for as many different users as possible, then leave it to individuals to tweak further if necessary.

 

I've started a new topic - to see if I can create a "level playing field" test scenario: http://www.avsim.com/topic/503705-generic-pta-testing-scenario-suggestions-please/

 

Adam.

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Jim,

 

My problem with this is I have never had to adjust my monitor since completion of this build and first lighting the screen over a year ago. It delivers great well balanced imagery in all my games and virtually ALL Adam's Presets prior to 20_10 produced the goods in P3D. I would be VERY resistant to the idea of changing any settings. I don't think that's the issue this time around.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

Adam,

 

No problem, this end as, like you, I'm fully ORBX'd up 😀 Also, I have FTX NZNI and NZSI so there should be no obstacle there.

 

I have no problem changing Sky textures. I have REX4 TxDirect, but don't have FEX. To date I've always considered ENVTEX textures to be furnishing similar Sky colours to the ones you have been using and certainly the produced terrain lighting has been very convincing.

 

Updating P3D and the graphics drivers may have had something to do with the changes I'm seeing but, as I said to Jim, I would prefer to leave my monitor settings at their default settings for the time being.

 

Perhaps we should start with what we have installed at present and go from there. Comparing images from identical situations may offer some clues to your practiced eyes.

 

This was a new experience for me as I have never had to change anything while using your previous Presets....and that's why I felt I should mention it. Also, and for selfish reasons, I wanted that wow factor back big again time...LOL!

 

In fact, while using your 20_09 Preset, and before updating P3D from a non to a fully hot-fixed sim, I have been marvelling at how close my sim's imagery is to what I'm seeing from some of the fantastic HD transmissions as viewed on our 42" LG Digital TV.

 

Regards,

Mike

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so previous 20_10 downloaders aren't really missing anything.
 

 

So no need to redownload?

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Yuri

 

I cannot thank you enough for adding the ability to brighten the inside of the VC in v2.10. Now I can have nice dark cloud shadows and still see the instrument panel! It's transformed the sim for me and stopped me having to add more interior lights via the aircraft.cfg file.

 

I've decided to donate again so you can enjoy a few bottles of Klinskoye Svetloe beer on me :)

 

andy

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