fsx-ms ATC addons

[nealmac 260]

So I'm looking for an ATC add on. However, I don't want to be messing around with voice control or anything like that. I want something that works similar to the built in FSX ATC that runs on current Nav Data and uses SIDs/STARs etc.

 

I know there's loads of addons (Radar Contact, Pilot 2 ATC, Vox ATC to name a few) but as far as I'm aware, these only support voice control. And if they support the "select response" they don't make reference to it.

 

I'm new to Avsim, so a bit of background info: I'm running FSX:SE on Windows 10. I'm using PFPX for flight planning, ASN for weather, NavDataPro for navigation updates and the PMDG 777, the Aerosoft Airbus A320/321 and the Eaglesoft Cessna Citation X although the aircraft probably won't matter.

 

So yeah, hit me. Cheers.

 

Neal.

[qqwertz 770]

Pro-ATC has no voice control.

 

Peter

[nealmac 260]

Pro-ATC has no voice control.

 

Peter

Thanks Peter, I'll have a look at that.

 

How does it work with waypoints, or more specifically SIDs/STARs and vectored departures/approaches.

[beechcaptain 105]

Radar Contact does not have voice control, as well.  It also works fine with waypoints, SIDs/STARs and vectored departures/approaches. 

 

It all is based on how you set it up, the fllight plan created by, for example, FSBuild.  If you use PFPX for your planner and say a detailed FMC as in PMDG or AS Airbuses, you will only get the standard plan and use your FMC to insert SID/STARS.  However, PFPX will not include waypoints for SID/STAR selections.  Hope this helps. 

 

RC4 is a very fine ATC addon that is time tested, IMHO.

[qqwertz 770]

Hi Neal,

 

Pro-ATC does vectoring, automatic or pre-selected SIDs, STARs, taxi instructions and so on. So for IFR, you get full service from gate to gate.

I use PFPX for flight planning and import this plan to Pro-ATC, but you can also do your planning in Pro-ATC if you wish. Airac cycles can be updated, and scenery can be updated using Pete Dowson's makerunways.  It still has a few bugs, but all in all it is among the best options for ATC, I think (apart from human controllers like Vatsim and IVAO).

 

It doesn't do VFR flights IIRC. Among the bugs that I find most prominent are handling of ground traffic and (occasionally) wrong vectoring instructions. However, the program is under active development and there is hope that all this will be fixed in a future version.

 

Peter

[nealmac 260]

Radar Contact does not have voice control, as well.  It also works fine with work with waypoints, SIDs/STARs and vectored departures/approaches. 

 

It all is based on how you set it up, the fllight plan created by, for example, FSBuild.  If you use PFPX for your planner and say a detailed FMC as in PMDG or AS Airbuses, you will only get the standard plan and use your FMC to insert SID/STARS.  However, PFPX will not include waypoints for SID/STAR selections.  Hope this helps. 

 

RC4 is a very fine ATC addon that is time tested, IMHO.

Thanks for that. Yeah I'm well used to the working of PFPX, in the sense you can import a flight plan to the FMC and then you have manually add in the departure and approach procedures. I'm guessing you have to do something similar for RC? 

Hi Neal,

 

Pro-ATC does vectoring, automatic or pre-selected SIDs, STARs, taxi instructions and so on. So for IFR, you get full service from gate to gate.

I use PFPX for flight planning and import this plan to Pro-ATC, but you can also do your planning in Pro-ATC if you wish. Airac cycles can be updated, and scenery can be updated using Pete Dowson's makerunways.  It still has a few bugs, but all in all it is among the best options for ATC, I think (apart from human controllers like Vatsim and IVAO).

 

It doesn't do VFR flights IIRC. Among the bugs that I find most prominent are handling of ground traffic and (occasionally) wrong vectoring instructions. However, the program is under active development and there is hope that all this will be fixed in a future version.

 

Peter

Thanks again for the info. I suppose what I'm really trying to do is get an addon that teaches me all the jargon before making the jump to VATSIM. I'll try and find some demo videos for both Pro ATC and Radar Contact. Any time I've ever searched for videos on ATC add ons they always seemed to be voice controlled. 

One other thing I forgot to mention, I'm using WOAI traffic. Will this work ok with all of the above?

[qqwertz 770]

 

 

I suppose what I'm really trying to do is get an addon that teaches me all the jargon before making the jump to VATSIM.

I often use Pro-ATC and Vatsim simultaneously if there is no ATC coverage on Vatsim at the beginning of my flight. The best way to get prepared for Vatsim is to join and listen to the transmissions (e.g., just park your plane at a remote ramp at a busy airport). Controllers are very friendly and happy to help newcomers, unless they are too busy. So when you are ready to try your first flight, pick an area with ATC coverage, but with a small amount of traffic. Another good idea is to join a VA that is an ATO (authorized training organization) for Vatsim. They have have excellent learning material. 

 

I personally find ATC jargon in Pro-ATC OK, but some will argue that RC4 is more precise. In any way, on Vatsim controllers will not fine you when you say Heading two hundred seventy instead of two seven zero

 

Peter

[beechcaptain 105]

 

 

Thanks for that. Yeah I'm well used to the working of PFPX, in the sense you can import a flight plan to the FMC and then you have manually add in the departure and approach procedures. I'm guessing you have to do something similar for RC?

 

No, unfortunately that is the only snag with RC4, if you build the plan without SID/STAR and then export the plan to FSX, you will not receive the vectors for SID/STAR, you will be vectored based on the initial and last waypoint from the loaded flight plan.  That is why I use FSBuild - soley so RC4 will have the SID and STAR waypoints included in the plan for RC4 to vector.

 

By the way - RC4 uses the same flight plan that is exported for FSX, in case you were wondering.   Also, RC4 rarely if ever misses the vectors to get you accurately to the localizer on arrival.

[DrumsArt 270]

So I'm looking for an ATC add on. However, I don't want to be messing around with voice control or anything like that. I want something that works similar to the built in FSX ATC that runs on current Nav Data and uses SIDs/STARs etc.

 

I know there's loads of addons (Radar Contact, Pilot 2 ATC, Vox ATC to name a few) but as far as I'm aware, these only support voice control. And if they support the "select response" they don't make reference to it.

 

I'm new to Avsim, so a bit of background info: I'm running FSX:SE on Windows 10. I'm using PFPX for flight planning, ASN for weather, NavDataPro for navigation updates and the PMDG 777, the Aerosoft Airbus A320/321 and the Eaglesoft Cessna Citation X although the aircraft probably won't matter.

 

So yeah, hit me. Cheers.

 

Neal.

Hi Neal,

 

VoxAtc can work with just keys push if you prefer. There is a trial version.

 

Pilot2Atc V.2 can work with just keys push. Trial version only for the version 1 (the V.1 have no key push option)

 

PF3 works with just push button. There is too a trial version.

 

By now I use essentially Vox and PF3.

 

Regards,

 

Richard Portier

[nealmac 260]

Thanks for all the info guys. I've been watching a few videos and I think the speech in Pro ATC is really good in the sense that it's not as "robotic" as Radar Contact.

 

I was watching this video

and it seems like it's exactly what I was after. It's just a pity it doesn't do voice control, as it would be nice to advance to that as I get more used to it. The video itself is brilliant too, but that's another story.

 

I'll try some of those trials too and see what they're like.

[MaVe64 414]

ProATC has only a hand full of voicesets, but I'm trying to change that by offering to make new ones.

It's nice to be able to fly SID's and STARS and make use of your FMC while having ATC guidance along the way.

It has a handy flightplanner too. Unfortuatly they don't have a demo. See

[Gregg_Seipp 565]

I've been sitting on my hands on ProATCX.  It's looking better.  I've just been hoping that it would allow you to ask for other runways and procedures for arrival/departure (other than the opposite direction runway, of course).   

[nealmac 260]

Cheers guys. Yeah not having a demo is a bit of blow, but it looks good on YouTube. Also, I envisage me continuing to use PFPX for the planning element, and just exporting it to Pro ATC, so the planning part of Pro ATC doesn't really make any difference to me.

[vololiberista 205]

Have you thought about PF3? http://www.oncourse-software.co.uk/

You can use it in a number of different modes. Voice control if you want. No voice control if you don't want. It does IFR/VFR SIDs STARs Vectors etc. It is a very flexible programme and bang up to date with regard to FAA and ICAO terminology and support is A1++

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHhYduG53Ps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crpKtgPIptQ

[awreaper 14]

Take a look at PilotEdge.  It is as real as it gets.  The only drawback is that it covers the SoCal area only but you will find every type of available airspace in that area.  They do it by the book and you will learn a ton.