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Tom Hanks plays Sully in new movie (engine out Hudson landing)

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Thanks, Gregg. Looking forward to its release.

 

Mike

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Thanks for the H/U -- will be a first day seating for me.  I am not crazy about the film's  implication from the investigators, but I am only guessing this was added for "dramatical effect".

 

Two paragraphs from the official NTSB report stand out for me --

 

"7. If the accident engines’ electronic control system had been capable of informing the flight
crewmembers about the continuing operational status of the engines, they would have been
aware that thrust could not be restored and would not have spent valuable time trying to
relight the engines, which were too damaged for any pilot action to make operational.

 

15. The captain’s decision to ditch on the Hudson River rather than attempting to land at an
airport provided the highest probability that the accident would be survivable."

 

Hope you are enjoying retirement Sully, God Bless...  :drinks:

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In the preview it has investigators saying that a simulation shows he could have made it back to the airport, and that one of the engines was still turning.  Anyone know if it is true such charges were raised?

 

Mike

 

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VCarlo, thanks for the quotes from the report.  We posted at about the same time.  Of course it is still possible that questions were raised during the investigation, but I have to wonder whether anyone ever did more than leave no stone unturned, as is customary in such investigations.

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Of course it is still possible that questions were raised during the investigation, but I have to wonder whether anyone ever did more than leave no stone unturned, as is customary in such investigations

 

I agree Mike, but I feel we always want "no stone unturned".  My guess is that movie studios are well aware that "controversy" sells tickets  :smile: .  All they have to do is state "Based on a true story"   This way probably less than 5% of the population will know what the NTSB REALLY concluded .

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I agree Mike, but I feel we always want "no stone unturned". My guess is that movie studios are well aware that "controversy" sells tickets :smile: . All they have to do is state "Based on a true story" This way probably less than 5% of the population will know what the NTSB REALLY concluded .

 

I just hope this doesn't sully Sully's reputation (couldn't resist).  Hopefully the film will show that no criticism of him persisted after the conclusion of the investigation.

 

 

 


Justin Beiber was practically born to play the role of Sully.

 

He certainly has the gravitas, appearance of wisdom and discipline to play this role.  Wonder why they ever picked Tom Hanks?   Another possibility:  Pee Wee Herman (I think he's still around).

 

Mike

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How do you make a movie of a couple of minute event?

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Looks promising, thanks for posting, Greg!

 

How do you make a movie of a couple of minute event?

 

 

Was thinkiung the same...how do you translate 3 minuets of action into a 90 min movie?  Hopefully it will be aviation related filler and not typical Hollywood crap....

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It would appear that they are concentrating on the aftermath of the event including the mandatory NTSB investigation rather than the event itself. That could fill volumes.

 

 

Vic

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The 737 at the 30 second mark has scimitar winglets that weren't out at the time of the event.

 

Literally unwatchable!

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It's been awhile, but my impression from reading the CVR transcript was that returning to LGA was not an option due to traffic. ATC cleared them with vectors a couple times to nearby airports, I think TET. The first thing Sully said was "QRH loss of thrust on both engines" and the F/O went to work while Sully flew the plane.

 

There was precious little time in which to consider their options. They handled it masterfully. Hollywood can do what they like, but reading that transcript, all the drama happens within about 90 seconds.

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It will be interesting to see what aircraft exteriors and cockpits they use in the movie since Hollywood generally does a poor job of using mockups of the actual aircraft that they are trying to portray.

 

I'll get a laugh if they show the inside of a 747 cockpit or something else not even similar to an Airbus. Although most movie watchers won't know the difference, most aviation fanatics will probably be checking out all the details.

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They should have used Denzel instead.

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It will be interesting to see what aircraft exteriors and cockpits they use in the movie since Hollywood generally does a poor job of using mockups of the actual aircraft that they are trying to portray.

 

I'll get a laugh if they show the inside of a 747 cockpit or something else not even similar to an Airbus. Although most movie watchers won't know the difference, most aviation fanatics will probably be checking out all the details.

Watching the trailer, that's an A320 cockpit, so it looks like they got that right.

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The 737 at the 30 second mark has scimitar winglets that weren't out at the time of the event.

 

Literally unwatchable!

I'm surprised you aren't upset the AAL livery was NOT around in 2009 and the 2 UNITED planes were Continental then.  At least they kept the US Airways 320 in tact.  C'mon give Hollywood a break {tongue firmly in cheek}   :Whistle:

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I'm surprised you aren't upset the AAL livery was NOT around in 2009 and the 2 UNITED planes were Continental then.

 

They needed to hire consultants from World of AI and possibly used some of the models and liveries they can supply.

 

Mike

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I'm surprised you aren't upset the AAL livery was NOT around in 2009 and the 2 UNITED planes were Continental then.  At least they kept the US Airways 320 in tact.  C'mon give Hollywood a break {tongue firmly in cheek}   :Whistle:

They got the interior of the cabin right. We had those "leather" seats in our Airbuses.

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I'm surprised you aren't upset the AAL livery was NOT around in 2009 and the 2 UNITED planes were Continental then.  At least they kept the US Airways 320 in tact.  C'mon give Hollywood a break {tongue firmly in cheek}   :Whistle:

haha. Good spotting

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Am I correct to assume that this movie will not explain why the decision to start the APU was pivotal, as it ensured that the Airbus remained in normal law, which improved the result of the ditching?

And no mentioning how important the actions of each member of the crew were for the fortunate outcome of the accident? F/O and cabin crew alike?

No mentioning of vital favourable circumstances like the installed slides/life rafts and nearby emergency response?

And no mentioning that today's crews - flightdeck and cabin alike - aren't trained and experienced anymore to handle an emergency like this one in an equally professional way?

So, just the usual fictitious Hollywood one man show?

 

I think this crew has deserved better ...

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Am I correct to assume that this movie will not explain why the decision to start the APU was pivotal, as it ensured that the Airbus remained in normal law, which improved the result of the ditching?

And no mentioning how important the actions of each member of the crew were for the fortunate outcome of the accident? F/O and cabin crew alike?

No mentioning of vital favourable circumstances like the installed slides/life rafts and nearby emergency response?

And no mentioning that today's crews - flightdeck and cabin alike - aren't trained and experienced anymore to handle an emergency like this one in an equally professional way?

So, just the usual fictitious Hollywood one man show?

 

I think this crew has deserved better ...

How would we know? No one has seen it yet.

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It would appear that they are concentrating on the aftermath of the event including the mandatory NTSB investigation rather than the event itself. That could fill volumes.

 

 

Vic

Of course, any government investigation these days has to waste the maximum amount of taxpayer dollars over something that could have been handled in a day.

 

Here are MY questions (and possibly ones that will be addressed in the film):

 

Did the NTSB, at any time, ever consider "pilot instinct" as the driving force for the Captain to perform a water landing?

Regardless of what the engines were doing, or were still capable of at the time, didn't NTSB think for one second that it would be a greater risk to fly the aircraft back over a heavily populated area?

Was it expected by the airline and the NTSB that this flight was supposed to crash with total loss of passengers and crew?

Was the Captain NOT a trusted and experienced pilot to the airline?  40 years is a long career and he didn't deserve to be grilled like he was with such insulting statements ("when was your last drink?).

 

He saved the passengers, averted total disaster, but yet they wanted to hang him out to dry.  I'd agree with Sully that he wasn't a hero...he was doing his job. :)

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How would we know? No one has seen it yet.

 

he's probably going by the shorts on it to make his comments

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I'm not a huge fan of any aviation related movie - regardless of the fact that this is a well documented event.

 

Hollywood productions are always over-sensationalized, significantly lacking technical accuracy, and feed garbage to those without any aviation knowledge - who then tend to spout garbage as truth.

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