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Would upgrading from Win 7 -> Win 10 make P3D run better?

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Thanks Bob, for the good news.

 

Thinking more seriously about a Mac now, whatever this would mean for simming. Maybe, X-Plane 11 will not be that ugly as X-Plane 10 is  :wink:. AeroflyFS2 is expected to get a MacPort, and doesn't JV run P3D on a Mac, after all? (Which would probably require a Windows license to be paid for one day either... dang).

 

Elaine, could  you resist should P3D go DX12 one day?

 

Kind regards, Michael


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And in 4 years you will most likely have a new PC by then, with a monthly subscription to Windows 10 that you can conveniently pay with your credit card,. :wink:

 

Ya see Bob i have a cunning plan!!  In 2020 I'm going to upgrade to Windows 8.1 which will give me another 3 years of resistance ! 

 

Bob, we will talk in 2023 

 

 

Elaine, could  you resist should P3D go DX12 one day?

 

Well this is it Michael,  I will look and lurch in the background then decided to pounce or not 


 

 

 

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If you upgrade to W10 is there still a problem if like me you plan to upgrade your GTX some time next year.

I read reports saying you could not change things like that for it to still activate?

 

Is that still true?


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the anniversary edition of windows 10 comes out on august 2nd, i am currently on the current insider build and everything works properly.everytime a new build is released i have to reactivate my products,but i don't see a huge increase in performance between windows 7 and 10, but while you still have the option to upgrade for free until the 29th, it's worth it.anything newer than the 6700k you will not be able to install windows 7 on the hardware, microsoft and intel are blocking it from working.

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 You can still install Windows7 on Skylake builds. There are some known issues with some motherboards (namely those with only USB3) but there are also fixes supplied by the motherboard manufacturers. It generally stems from Windows 7 not natively supporting USB3 but users with a Win7 SP1 DVD can easily get past it.


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One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1

 

 


Q: What happens if I change the hardware configuration of my Windows 10 device?

A: If the hardware configuration of your Windows 10 device changes significantly (e.g. motherboard change) Windows may require re-activation on the device. This is the same experience as prior versions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1).   The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation.

 

 

A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will.

 

Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows.  If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying.

 

That, in its own right, is a heel-screeching showstopper for me.

 

Regards


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One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1

 

 

 

A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will.

 

Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows.  If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying.

 

That, in its own right, is a heel-screeching showstopper for me.

 

Regards

 

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Once you upgrade a retail Win7 to Win 10 you cannot reuse the Win7 licence on another computer. You can however reinstall Windows 10 as needed. The upgrade inherits the original retail benefit.

 

Taken from Win Supersite.

 

"If I purchased my copy of Windows 7 or 8/8.1 as a retail license from a store (brick and mortar or online/digital) and I upgrade to the free Windows 10 can I transfer that to a new computer under the retail licensing? (23 June 2015)

YES"

 

Cheers,


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Is WDDM2.0 support of any benefit for P3D or other DX11 software ?

Or does it requires specific updates within P3D engine by LM skunks ?

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One giant gotcha, from Microsoft at: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/reinstalling-windows-10-after-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?auth=1

 

 

 

A retail Win 7 installation allows you to migrate it from one PC and/or configuration to another at-will.

 

Once you use your Win 7 license to upgrade to Win 10 you are now essentially locked to a specific computer just as if you bought an OEM version of Windows.  If you change your hardware enough to trigger reactivation, you will not be able to re-upgrade to Win 10 without paying.

 

 

 

I never knew that!

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I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Once you upgrade a retail Win7 to Win 10 you cannot reuse the Win7 licence on another computer. You can however reinstall Windows 10 as needed. The upgrade inherits the original retail benefit.

 

Taken from Win Supersite.

 

"If I purchased my copy of Windows 7 or 8/8.1 as a retail license from a store (brick and mortar or online/digital) and I upgrade to the free Windows 10 can I transfer that to a new computer under the retail licensing? (23 June 2015)

YES"

 

Cheers,

 

All I can say is that that the info I posted was taken (and I provided the source) from an official Microsoft website...yours is not.

 

So, if I am left to decide between the answer given by Microsoft, or some guy on an unsanctioned Windows-themed website, I have to go with the official answer.  Maybe MS took months to answer this question with a very carefully-worded reply and got it wrong?!

 

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All I can say is that that the info I posted was taken (and I provided the source) from an official Microsoft website...yours is not.

 

No worries - how about the fact that the EULA says you can.

Refer to the Windows 10 Licence Agreement

Clause 4 b of the EULA states

 

Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.

 

Here is a link to the Supersite article

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-upgrade-and-installation-frequently-asked-questions

 

Hope this helps allay your concern.

 

Cheers.


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My OS install was an OEM version, so that point does not bother me either way, however if I ever did want to go back, you can get Win7 licences for very little - around £20GBP. So its hardly the end of the world for anyone :fool:

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All this fretting about subscriptions, in the first place if you looked carefully at the article

its for "Enterprise" customers, not for home or prosumer, I think people just love to hate

MS :)

 

Further,  subs surround us, there is a cost to doing business, see how you feel if your

paycheck stopped because your employer just hated having to "subscribe" to your

expertise, ahem :)


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I think people just love to hate MS :)

 

Yup. As those on the gaming (and other) forums say "haters gonna hate" which is sad, but true in most cases here :/

 

I have every reason to 'hate' as it was forced upon me, but Win10 is the best OS I have used to date. It's slick and very nice to use, once you've become familiar with its differences. Its absolutley the most stable OS I've ever had, and if I have to build a new PC its Win10 that's going on it. I've yet to encounter a single negative, so there :Tounge:

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