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Did a trial flight with Majestic Dash 8 KPSP-KSEA. All sliders to the right, except shadows. Full ORBX package with default ORBX KSEA, and ASN16+Clouds.. P3D crashed on 5 mile final over Seattle scenery. Obviously 8 gigs of video memory not enough :)

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Very much doubt that was because of maxed VRAM. 

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The card memory has nothing to do with the crash! FSX and P3D are both 32bit so they can't use any more the 4GB. You could have a 50GB video card and you will get the same result. Maxing out the sliders caused the OOM crash. Not the card.

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What he said. Not possible.

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DIsable PNW and try again. This always works for me

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Very much doubt that was because of maxed VRAM. 

 

 Then you should doubt LM message box as well since it stated upon exit that P3D ran out of memory

The card memory has nothing to do with the crash! FSX and P3D are both 32bit so they can't use any more the 4GB. You could have a 50GB video card and you will get the same result. Maxing out the sliders caused the OOM crash. Not the card.

That kind of sucks I have memory but can use it :(

DIsable PNW and try again. This always works for me

 

I can't kill my eye candy. Gotta back up on sliders.

 

By the way since P3D was not freshly installed with new video card would it make sense to do something with shaders? Renew them perhaps?

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 Then you should doubt LM message box as well since it stated upon exit that P3D ran out of memory

 

You ran out of Virtual Address Space, not VRAM.

 

Cheers!

 

Luke

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That kind of sucks I have memory but can use it

 

Yes you can.

Just keep adding monitors to your system and you will eventually use up all your 8 GB of VRAM.

But your crash was probable due to to lack of VAS (Virtual Address Space) which has nothing to do with VRAM.

 

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You ran out of Virtual Address Space, not VRAM.

 

Cheers!

 

Luke

 

 So is it OS fault then?

Yes you can.

Just keep adding monitors to your system and you will eventually use up all your 8 GB of VRAM.

But your crash was probable due to to lack of VAS (Virtual Address Space) which has nothing to do with VRAM.

 

gb.

 In other words, no hardware can manage full load LM graphics  + ORBX?

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So is it OS fault then?

 

In other words, no hardware can manage full load LM graphics + ORBX?

No, it's the fault of P3D being a 32 bit application, same as FSX and FS9, although P3D can make better use of the allocation, it's still 32 bit.

 

You've been here since 2011 and I would think that in reading the forums you would know the limitations of 32 bit sim as it's almost discussed daily here.

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 Then you should doubt LM message box as well since it stated upon exit that P3D ran out of memory

 

Yeah, as mentioned a few times now, this has nothing to do with VRAM. Nor the OS's RAM management. This is the application's virtual address space, nothing else. 

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In other words, no hardware can manage full load LM graphics + ORBX?

 

Correct.

 

If it is still unclear, the memory in question, that P3D ran out of, is not the VRAM soldered on your GTX 1080. It is the RAM inside your computer, the memory "sticks" on your motherboard. As the others have stated, P3D is based on a technology can only make use of 4 GByte of that RAM (so don't bother buying additional RAM modules with P3D in mind if you already have 8 GByte or more in there). If the P3D program needs more RAM than those 4 GByte to display additional objects, clouds, aircraft etc. it will produce the aforementioned error message.

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Did a trial flight with Majestic Dash 8 KPSP-KSEA. All sliders to the right, except shadows. Full ORBX package with default ORBX KSEA, and ASN16+Clouds.

As a rule of thumb, never fly a complex aircraft onto a full-fat Orbx region. When flying PMDG or Majestic it's more sensible to use FTX Global.

 

As others have said, its not your card.

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One can monitor the GPU with GPU-Z a freeware tool very well. I doubt that your card run out of memory.

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