or instance I couldn't fly few airplanes in FSX only because of pretty bad engine sounds.

 

Completely agree.  I'm on that wavelength too

Would be great to hear some feedback from a real life 737 NG pilot. In other forums the opinion is that the sounds are overdone and way to loud compared to what you hear in the real cockpit. All those "it sounds more realistic"-comments are quite pointless if they come from armchair pilots. How could you know what is "more realisitic"? But maybe a real life pilot can add some quality feedback to the discussion. That would be nice.

 

Be aware that I lowered the volume of cockpit ambient sounds via the NGX FMC options to emphasize the sound of switches, levers, etc. Easier for listener to hear them. In the real cockpit avionics/fans are louder for sure, and some switches will be barely audible, so what is the point of making such a demonstration video where you can't clearly hear the sounds which soundpack includes.

Would be great to hear some feedback from a real life 737 NG pilot. In other forums the opinion is that the sounds are overdone and way to loud compared to what you hear in the real cockpit. All those "it sounds more realistic"-comments are quite pointless if they come from armchair pilots. How could you know what is "more realisitic"? But maybe a real life pilot can add some quality feedback to the discussion. That would be nice.

I have requested Stearmandriver address that...he will probably need some time to get up to speed if he's not already apprised of Pe11e's product, but I think you will agree that he is a perfectly qualified judge.

 

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I was too curious about this sounds and bought it... they are awesome! 

Unfortunately I was never in a real 737 flightdeck but at least in a simulator flightdeck and the switches in the soundpack are clearly more immersive than the default ones. It sounds more as if the sound is really reflected by the "walls" of the cockpit. In general they sound more "brighter", more mechanical.

 

I think it is an question of individual taste, I like it. 

Be aware that I lowered the volume of cockpit ambient sounds via the NGX FMC options to emphasize the sound of switches, levers, etc.

 

Good to know! I thought that in the demo video the switches are too loud compared to the fan and other ambient sounds (even though I'm also no real world pilot). I think it would be a good idea to point that out at the beginning of the demo video. Because this was also one criticism I read in another forum.

 

I have requested Stearmandriver address that...

 

Yeah. Would be great to get some feedback from him. However, he has to buy the sounds first and I don't know if he wants to do that...

 

By the way: I also think that sounds are a huge driver of immersion. That is also one of the strength of the FSLabs A320. The sounds are great on the FSLabs bus. It almost makes you feel as if you press the buttons...

Yeah. Would be great to get some feedback from him. However, he has to buy the sounds first and I don't know if he wants to do that...

 

he's a big boy and he gets the big bucks Alaska Air pays their FOs… Unless he's been promoted… Let's hope so!

 

Chas

There's several folks on here who've been flying 73s longer than me...

 

Out of curiosity, I took a listen to the demo video of these sounds. I'll be honest, the PMDG stock sounds strike me as more real. These are too exaggerated, they seem way overdone. I stopped watching when the transmitter select button on the audio panel made a distinct "click". I've never heard those buttons make any sound at all, so that just seemed bizarre.

 

Sounds like they claim that demo doesn't reflect real-world experience of those sounds though (which kind of seems the point of a demo to me...), so who knows. I have no motivation to buy them or even install them for free. Like anything else, my take is "use what ya like". In the end, this is a desktop computer game. It can get kinda close, but is never going to accurately look, feel, or sound like flying... because it isn't. Doesn't mean it can't be fun and educational, but there's degrees of realism that probably aren't worth obsessing over lol.

Thanks Andrew, much appreciated and kind of what we expected I guess.

There's several folks on here who've been flying 73s longer than me...

 

Out of curiosity, I took a listen to the demo video of these sounds. I'll be honest, the PMDG stock sounds strike me as more real. These are too exaggerated, they seem way overdone. I stopped watching when the transmitter select button on the audio panel made a distinct "click". I've never heard those buttons make any sound at all, so that just seemed bizarre.

 

Sounds like they claim that demo doesn't reflect real-world experience of those sounds though (which kind of seems the point of a demo to me...), so who knows. I have no motivation to buy them or even install them for free. Like anything else, my take is "use what ya like". In the end, this is a desktop computer game. It can get kinda close, but is never going to accurately look, feel, or sound like flying... because it isn't. Doesn't mean it can't be fun and educational, but there's degrees of realism that probably aren't worth obsessing over lol.

 

Thanks, Andrew! Your feedback is much appreciated.

There's several folks on here who've been flying 73s longer than me...

Out of curiosity, I took a listen to the demo video of these sounds. I'll be honest, the PMDG stock sounds strike me as more real. These are too exaggerated, they seem way overdone. I stopped watching when the transmitter select button on the audio panel made a distinct "click". I've never heard those buttons make any sound at all, so that just seemed bizarre.

Sounds like they claim that demo doesn't reflect real-world experience of those sounds though (which kind of seems the point of a demo to me...), so who knows. I have no motivation to buy them or even install them for free. Like anything else, my take is "use what ya like". In the end, this is a desktop computer game. It can get kinda close, but is never going to accurately look, feel, or sound like flying... because it isn't. Doesn't mean it can't be fun and educational, but there's degrees of realism that probably aren't worth obsessing over lol.

As I've mentioned it earlier, I've tuned down the volume of avionics/fans on purpose, so the sounds of switches, levers, etc, could be heard more easily. That is why it is called sounds demo.

The other part is that we didn't managed to record all the sounds in the real cockpit, so we used slightly modified sounds from similiar switches/buttons to cover those. All other sounds are the exact recordings of the real counterparts, so if someone found them not realistic you can blame the real cockpit hehe.

 

Cheers

I picked it up and like it a lot, have not had any VAS issue using it at all. Realism; sure it's important but, I'm sitting in an office chair in my bonus room fighting ambient household noises, that said I'm not going to obsess over it.  I like it, I feel I got my moneys worth and I have certainly paid more for less. Looking forward to other releases by IA. Moreover, I asked a question (sent an email) before purchasing and got an informative response right away which is always a good sign.

 

 

It can get kinda close, but is never going to accurately look, feel, or sound like flying... because it isn't. Doesn't mean it can't be fun and educational, but there's degrees of realism that probably aren't worth obsessing over lol.

 

Precisely.  This is a great example of delusion not being indicative of mental illness.  And the bigger the delusional episode, the better.   :smile:

Just did the exact same flight again without this sound package to check my VAS compared to last flight when I had the sound package installed and I can now confirm I have about 230 MB extra VAS left after landing in Salzburg from Stockholm and using the exact same config.

 

In my case this means not having to worry about a potential OOM CTD with about 430 MB VAS left vs 200 MB VAS left with the sound package installed.

 

However this of course is on my system using my setup of different add-ons etc so this in no way means you can't enjoy this sound package if you like the sounds and maybe have a less VAS intensive config vs mine.

 

My hat off for the developer though who came up with this sound package where some of the sounds really are very nice. They were just not for me in the end even when I liked them when I first tried them out. Not with the VAS issue and also not after the comment from a real NGX driver who confirms the PMDG sounds that you get out of the box with the NGX are more realistic in his opinion and I do value the opinion from a person with real world experience very high.

 

 

The other part is that we didn't managed to record all the sounds in the real cockpit, so we used slightly modified sounds from similiar switches/buttons to cover those.

 

Maybe this should be mentioned in some way on the product page over at SimMarket because this is what the product page currently says...

 

"All sounds are recorded in the real 737 cockpit, carefully processed and extensively tested to provide the highest possible sound quality, realism, authenticity and immersion."

 

...which in fact then actually is false marketing.

 

Not trying to be grumpy but when the product page clearly states that all sounds are recorded in the real cockpit and later the developer says they didn't manage to record all sounds in the real cockpit well...

It isn't false marketing, I recorded in the real cockpit ALL sounds of switches, levers and buttons that you can hear in the pack, just used few of them on items that I didn't managed to record (maybe 10% of total items). So definitely all sounds included in this pack WERE recorded in the real cockpit.

Ok.

 

Well, if you read your own post I quoted you did say you were not able to record all sounds in the real cockpit and now you say you did...hmm...:wink:

 

Not a big deal though :smile: