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North Korean Airshow 2016

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At the 4:32 mark you'll see an aircraft that should not be in North Korea at all...

 

...as it is a PAC P-750 XSTOL* built in New Zealand and it is forbidden to export it to North Korea.

 

 

* See:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAC_P-750_XSTOL

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That looks fantastic, might replace Duxford and RIAT in 2017.

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52 contracted for sale to China - N Korea's point of entry.

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As it happens, that specific aircraft was exported to China, where it subsequently took part in a two company pass-through sale and was flown to North Korea. Oddly enough though, the registration is still Chinese, but it is permanently based in North Korea.

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Don't forget the MD-500s.  :smile: 

 

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Indeed.

 

This one seemed to get "under the Sanctions Radar" too...

 

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PAC 750 - also on the sanctions list somehow got there.

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This one seemed to get "under the Sanctions Radar" too...

 

PAC 750 - also on the sanctions list somehow got there.

This was mentioned in the first post, and again in the sixth post... :dance:

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I'll have to admit though: Those Russian Airliners look stunning. Beautiful design isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Russia, but they sure knew how to make sleek lines in some of their aircraft. Too bad I've never gotten to see some of those classic Russian airliners in real life.

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John Key signed off on a $75 million joint venture between Pacific Aerospace and Beijing Automotive when he visited in March 2014, which allowed the Kiwi-made plane to be sold into China and to private clients. It has nothing to do with NZ what China does with the aircraft after they buy it, and as long as China ignores UN sanctions on NK it will continue to happen with any product or service that is sold from any country to China, So will the USA Sanction us Kiwi`s now....!

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China and to private clients. It has nothing to do with NZ what China does with the aircraft after they buy it, and as long as China ignores UN sanctions on NK it will continue to happen with any product or service that is sold from any country to China,

Exactly.

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More concerned about the airliner at 6:12 with the tail wheel config. Thats some serious C of G issue or everybody rushes to the toilet on landing?

 

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I'll have to admit though: Those Russian Airliners look stunning. Beautiful design isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Russia, but they sure knew how to make sleek lines in some of their aircraft. Too bad I've never gotten to see some of those classic Russian airliners in real life.

+1 and the engines sounds are awesome either, great stuff!

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Good Video, Was that a landing or a crash at 09:38 with the Mig 21?

 

Is that what you'd call a firm landing, maybe he's practising for landing on carriers :)

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haha. ^^ beat me to it.. That Mig landing looked pretty ridiculous.

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Good Video, Was that a landing or a crash at 09:38 with the Mig 21?

 

Is that what you'd call a firm landing, maybe he's practising for landing on carriers :)

 

I was thinking the same thing. Looked awfully close to a tailstrike, but maybe we shouldn't point it out - that might sadly cut the life of the pilot short... 

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More concerned about the airliner at 6:12 with the tail wheel config. Thats some serious C of G issue or everybody rushes to the toilet on landing?

 

For a country that can't even feed itself, the majority of these AC are just 'for show' and not really in use by the general public. I was surprised they actually had enough gas to fly as many birds at the airshow as they did.

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Good Video, Was that a landing or a crash at 09:38 with the Mig 21?

 

Is that what you'd call a firm landing, maybe he's practising for landing on carriers :)

 

Great Vid Fr. Bill, thanks for sharing.

 

The pilot started the flare too high, wings lost lift and the Mig hit the runway pretty hard.  I'd be pretty nervous myself considering who might be in VIP spectators booth.  

 

On another note,  At 5:42 in the video I couldn't believe my eyes when the IL-62 thrust reverse was deployed prior to the AC touchdown on the runway.  Another observation I made was the amount of dust coming off the runway as each aircraft passed over the surface, wonder if it was decaying concrete or hard packed gravel?

 

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Re. IL-62, I just read that the manufacturer recommends the thrust reverse is deployed prior to landing.  Must be hard to slow that bird down for landing.

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More concerned about the airliner at 6:12 with the tail wheel config. Thats some serious C of G issue or everybody rushes to the toilet on landing?

Noticed that did you? I saw that and wondered what the heck that skinny tail wheel is for. Maybe it's a wheelie bar for when they drag race? :LMAO:

Re. IL-62, I just read that the manufacturer recommends the thrust reverse is deployed prior to landing.  Must be hard to slow that bird down for landing.

Those four engines are real screamers too, are they not?

 

I noticed that the "tail gear" is only deployed while taxiing. I still don't understand why it is needed though... :blink:

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Interesting aircraft the IL-62. I cannot think of another aircraft with infinite flap settings.

 

The tail wheel is normally only used for loading. I guess as for the airshow there is no pax load and low fuel load to balance the aircraft it probably needed the tailwheel down just in case for taxi.

 

The tailwheel also does not fully retract so doubles up as a tailskid for over rotation on takeoff.

 

Thank you for the video link Bill. Four things struck me..... what is the *%£# is runway made of and none of the pilots filled me with confidence.

 

The Mig landing was scary! and noone lands an IL-76 like a Tristar! The huge flaps cause so much drag you can get in real trouble with a nose high flare.

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Beautiful Russian airliners! Some of the IL-62s use the same screaming Solovievs as that Air Koryo IL-76. You're right edetroit: most IL-76 landings seen on youtube etc. are rather flatter, if not slightly nose down just before levelling off for touchdown. I myself did a nosewheel landing with the freeware IL-76 I have. Of course that's not remotely a real world indication at all... apart from the fact that the sim bird with full flaps does adopt a nose down attitude  :dance:

 

I wonder if there was nothing wrong with the runway, but only that it had not been swept properly? It's on a bit of a peninsula with the sea quite close by; salt maybe?

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Thank you for the video link Bill. Four things struck me..... what is the *%£# is runway made of and none of the pilots filled me with confidence.

There were quite a few other "acts" at the airshow that were not in this video. There are quite a few others on YouTube that do show excellently piloted aerobatic aircraft, sky divers, etc. that make up a typical Western style airshow.

 

Two of the few women army pilots were featured as well. Odd though that they were given some really old fighter jets to use... 2:17 mark

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oYWNzHsY8

The flight by girls pilots of supersonic fighters of the Korean People's Army reached the height of aeronautics.

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All of them are "vintage aircraft". I don't know the exact dates, but I suspect the newest one is at least twenty or more years old. According to the various news reports, they are only used on "Domestic Routes" and even so probably don't get used all that much since the U.N. has sanctions against anyone supplying fuel to NK.

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Totally weird..... still I'd rather go this airshow than a western one as this is the age of aircraft I would like to see. :Cuppa:  

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