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What if a US based airliner flies over Russian airspace?

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I've seen air incidents where Russia has shot down passenger planes from the United States.

 

I know none of America's three major carriers fly to Russia. In fact, I don't think any US based airline flies to or over Russia.

But you can fly a Russian airline to America (say Aeroflot) which really confuses me. Why is that?

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Yeah they do! Flights from the west coast of the USA to China fly over Russia! I suggest you look at plane finder! Right now I count 2 American Airlines, 1 United and 2 Delta over Russia

No way. Can you give me their tail numbers?

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Look at the links above? What on earth made you think American aircraft don't fly over Russia? The cold war ended 25 years ago! If you didn't file a flight plan with the appropriate departments and entered Russian airspace sure you would end up with a fighter escort to a base but the exact same thing would happen if you entered just about any countries airspace unannounced

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I've seen air incidents where Russia has shot down passenger planes from the United States.

 

I know none of America's three major carriers fly to Russia. In fact, I don't think any US based airline flies to or over Russia.

 

But you can fly a Russian airline to America (say Aeroflot) which really confuses me. Why is that?

 

Why do you need the tail numbers?  Flightaware is a very well-known tracking site for commercial flights.

 

When did Russia shoot down multiple passenger aircraft flying from the U.S?  Only one I know of is Korean Air 007; that was in 1983.

 

Mike

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I've seen air incidents where Russia has shot down passenger planes from the United States.

 

I know none of America's three major carriers fly to Russia. In fact, I don't think any US based airline flies to or over Russia.

But you can fly a Russian airline to America (say Aeroflot) which really confuses me. Why is that?

I understand that your probably pretty young but not sure where you're getting your info but Delta flys to Moscow (Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow) but just recently cut trips to Moscow during the winter season.

 

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/delta-ends-direct-flights-between-russia-and-us-55222

 

 

What US passenger planes has Russia shot down?

 

Read up on prohibited airspace.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibited_airspace

 

When in doubt Google your questions first, the results might surprise you.

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When did Russia shoot down multiple passenger aircraft flying from the U.S?  Only one I know of is Korean Air 007; that was in 1983.

 

 

thats the only one i'm familiar with also. it was actually kind of important in aviation history because it was a catalyst for making GPS available to non-military uses

 

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thats the only one i'm familiar with also. it was actually kind of important in aviation history because it was a catalyst for making GPS available to non-military uses

 

Interesting!  The pilots entered incorrect waypoint data into their inertial navigation system and flew into Soviet airspace.  The aircraft, seen from below, may have been mistaken for a US military surveillance version of a 707 by Russian fighters.

 

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I recall the two Air Korea flights as they operate close to Russian Airspace but I don't recall any US airlines shot down by the Russian's ever.

 

When Korean Air flight 007 was shot down the Americans were very tough on Russia only for the Americans to shoot down Iran Air flight 155, which the Russians turned the blame back on the USA for shooting down an airliner as well.

 

US Navy operating inside Iranian waters and shooting down an Iranian Airliner that was flying inside Iranian Airspace on its Daily Scheduled Route....not good

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Pretty sure Delta flies to Moscow (sheremetyevo) from Atlanta.

I already mentioned that above with a link.

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Russia also shot down a commercial jet over Ukraine last year.

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America flag carriers were flying into Russia even during the cold war. I knew a captain that flew for Pan Am that had flown to Moscow many times. He had some hilarious stories. He also said, you didn't deviate at all from your flight plan. They were very, very strict.

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I already mentioned that above with a link.

Pretty sure Delta flies to Moscow (sheremetyevo) from Atlanta.

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Russia also shot down a commercial jet over Ukraine last year.

 

The most likely scenario is that pro-Russian Ukranians, using Russia-supplied missiles, shot down the Malaysia 777 over Ukraine.  Not the same as Russia directly shooting down a civilian airliner, but bad enough.

 

Mike

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The most likely scenario is that pro-Russian Ukranians, using Russia-supplied missiles, shot down the Malaysia 777 over Ukraine.  Not the same as Russia directly shooting down a civilian airliner, but bad enough.

 

Mike

More likely though, the missile battery was manned by Russian soldiers sent to be 'pro-Russian Ukrainians'. Also known as little green men.

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The most likely scenario is that pro-Russian Ukranians, using Russia-supplied missiles, shot down the Malaysia 777 over Ukraine.  Not the same as Russia directly shooting down a civilian airliner, but bad enough.

 

Mike

Right, so Russia.

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Right, so Russia.

 

Exactly

 

 

The most likely scenario is that pro-Russian Ukranians, using Russia-supplied missiles, shot down the Malaysia 777 over Ukraine.  Not the same as Russia directly shooting down a civilian airliner, but bad enough.

 

Mike

 

My view is that every nation is responsible for their own military hardware and personnel and should prevent equipment and/or personnel from falling into the wrong hands. Therefore if this was the situation Russia is responsible for the actions of those involved or the negligent use of their own equipment. Unfortunate that little to nothing can be done due to where the incident happened other then scathing reports and findings.

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