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difficulties in updating FS9.0 to FS9.1

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Dear Flight simmers,

 

I had to install everything at a new (bigger) and clean PC.

By serious reasons I went for Win7 again.

After getting all updates into it, I began to install FS2004

I have the Version 9.0 on the Microsoft-OEM-DVD (no CD-startup needed).

 

Then (as at the old PC) I run the fs91upd.exe and noticed something strange. 

I had no problems with it, when the software officially got released in 2006 and even downloaded it from microsoft-com itself.

 

But this time it began to work a few seconds to then show "It hasn't been possible to update flight simmulation to version 9.1"

 

No error code got shown.

 

I looked into various discussions at the www and tried to follow their advices.

 

Yes, I installed the FS2004v9.0 in the default path.

Yes, it also is correctly stated in the registry.

No, there is no backup-folder in the fs9-folder, nor in any of its subfolders.

Yes, I run fs91upd.exe in the very same language version, as the FS2004v9.0 came

Yes, I run the fs91upd.exe from inside the fs9-main-folder

Yes, I did changed the fs9-folder-(and and sub-folder)-properties to "every user has all rights to read, write and change"

Yes, I dod told Mr. kaspersky to let it go without controll, or interferance

 

and so on, and so on.

 

Still, the fs91upd.exe doesn't works.

 

Any ideas?

 

with very best regards,

Stefan.

 

And so on.

 

 

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I have the Version 9.0 on the Microsoft-OEM-DVD (no CD-startup needed).

 

 

Did you installed no CD exe before and FS9.1 update after? Because this way it doesn't work.

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Dear Goldenrocket,

 

 

I have the FS2004v9.0 on DVD.

 

I do not need any CD to launch the game.

 

And I do not need any no-CD-patch to have it launching without CD.

 

It get's completely installed from DVD. Afterwards the DVD gets of the DVD-CD-runner and back into the bookshell und forgotten until I buy another PC.

At least this was the way, it worked the last two times without any difficulties by running the fs91upd.exe

 

 

Sincerily,

Stefan.


Buy the way, they (Microsoft) "sold" the DVD-version as a give-away-by-pack included at all Win-XP-Laptops that people bought between X-mas 2003 and summer 2004 within the Europan Economic Area. 

 

The DVD-Edition was counted at some million numbers.

 

The CD-Version (demanding a no-CD-patch, or the CD'1 to get launched) was the version that got regulare sold in shops world wide.

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Buy the way, they (Microsoft) "sold" the DVD-version as a give-away-by-pack included at all Win-XP-Laptops that people bought between X-mas 2003 and summer 2004 within the Europan Economic Area. 

 

 

This is possibly where your problem is.  It seems to me that the DVD was "linked" to your old PC and cannot be installed on a new one.

 

Dijvid

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Did you launch FS2004 and let it build the scenery databases before updating? If so, the DVD version may already be version 9.1.

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Dear vector,

 

the I bought the IBM-laptob with the WinXP back in early 2004 only because of the FS2004-DVD.

It run smoth at that laptop,

 

It was no problem to run the fs91upd.exe, when it got reliesed in 2006.

 

The laptop died in 2010 and I installed everything fressh at a PC with Win7 and died not have any difficulties to run the fs91upd.exe

 

Now I had to swap to a bigger PC to some professional reasons. Everything runs smoth, except the fs91upd.exe.

 

 

DearA32xx,

 

the installation mask forces you to run the FS2004 at least oncem, bevor closing it, to finish the installition by building the scenery database.

Still it had been no problem to run the fs91upd-exe in 2006 and 2010.

 

In addition to that the version shown in it still is 9.0 until you try to run fs91upd.exe.

 

One of the fisrt things that update does: it changes the version No. 

 

After failinng it does not gets changes back to 9.0, thus one has to clean deinstall FS2004 and to clean install it again, before getteing the next chance of running the fs91upd.exe. Otherwise the window "update allraedy got installed" would and will occure.

 

Independent from the version No. shown in the programm list at "Systemsteuerung/Programme" it easily is to check by several parameters weather or not the version 9.1 really is there.

 

In FS2004 are some hundred of bridges missing, that had been in FS2002. The updsate to FS9.1 also puts that bridges into FS2004.

If you do know some of those bridges you just have to run the FS2004 to fly to one of those.

 

One of those some 100 bridges, that tell the different between all add-on-free-versions below 9.1 and the version 9.1 is the "Köhlbrandbrücke" in the harbour of Hamburg. Lift of your aircraft at EDDH (Hamburg Fuhlsbüttel International Airport) and fly to EDHI (Hamburg Finkenwerder Airbus Airport) and you should notice the highest free standing bridge in Germany.

 

Another issue is the terra mesh. Northern Germany is quite flat. Looking clother at it, it is hilly. The mesh data got better with 9.1. The difference between any none-add-on-version below 9.1 the version 9.1 is easily to tell, if you go slow and low from EDHK to EDHI

 

And so on, and so on.

 

The DVD can't put anything into the FS2004 that got released bei Acer/Microsoft two years after the DVD came on the marked, especially, since the DVD does not needs any online-connection to completely install and run the native FS2004v9.0

 

I do however suspect the fs91upd.exe to download files from teh internet wheile updating the FS90 to FS91.

And I do suspect the links to be dead, after Microsoft closed Acer und sold the rights at the FS.

 

Sincerily,

Stefan.

 

With very best regards,

Stefan.


Dear vololiberista,

 

what is a "unmentionable"?

 

sincerily,

stefan

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Hi Stefan, I did a google search and found this for you:

 

Update Error Type: 34
Warning If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

You may receive the "Update Error Type: 34" error message if there is a registry value that is not valid for the location of the Fs9.exe file. To resolve this error message, correct the EXE Path string value in the registry. To do this, follow these steps:

   1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit in the Open box, and then click OK.
   2. Locate and then select the following registry key:
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0
   3. Right-click the EXE Path string value, and then click Modify.
   4. In the Value data box, use one of the following procedures, and then click OK:
          * Type the correct path of the Fs9.exe file. For example, type C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9 in the Value data box.
          * Delete the path in the Value data box.
   5. On the File menu, click Exit to quit Registry Editor.
   6. Double-click the Fs91upd.exe file to install the update.

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Dear A32xx

 

 

thank you for your google search, but

 

1.): you haven't read my problem.

 

2.): There is no error type stated.

 

3.): I controlled the path in the registry allready(before I came to register myself here) and it is the correct one.

 

 

Sincerily

Stefan

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Hi Stefan,

 

Even though the error type is not stated there is clearly an error, and the above solution allows you to re-run the update without having to uninstall and re-install FS2004 again.

Perhaps the update cannot find your FS2004 installation at all?

Try running the Flight1 FSX/FS9 Registry Repair Tool before running the updater again:

 

http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

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Dear A32xx,

 

 

the fresh FS2004v9.0 is, where it is supposed to be and runs flawless after getting launched.

It is just the fs91udp.exe, that doesn't runs flawless.

 

Yes, obviously there is some error. 

 

I got myself a fresh fs91upd.exe from flyawaysimmulation and another one from another place, and so on.

I even read carefully through https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/kb/894732 and its (US) English origin https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/894732 what actually is the solution a lot of people already mentioned since 2010 at the web and you have been so kind to also mention here and that do have three issues in common.

 

This error never hits the DVD-version, only the multiple-CD-version

and

it always shows the error type 32

and

at the DVD-version of the FS2004 the path always (if installed at the default one) is correct written into the registry.

 

In addition to that, just to be sure, I checked at it, because there is this saying, telling not to be the smartest guy on earth by saying and believing in "never" outside the science of mathematics.

 

Also I went through the procedure of "registry repair", without getting the fs91upd.exe to do its job.

 

Thus, may we please jump that kind advice, to go on, to look for another solution?

 

 

With thanks,

sincerily,

Stefan.

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The patch doesn't download anything from the net. You also stated you installed FS to the default path. Have you run the patch with UAC turned off?

As long as the registry path is correct, the patch should install. Just because you can start FS this doesn't mean the registry path is correct.

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Dear Skywatcher,

 

 

the path-issue is a very smart point.

By experiment I erased the path in the registry and indeed the FS2004 get launched und run as usual.

 

In addition to that: the fs91upd.exe not downloading anything is kind of nice. I will get the PC offline and shut down Mr. Kaspersky, as I did by installing the default FS2004v9.0 to get it clean and complete.

 

May be there is a kind of disturbance between Mr. Kaspersky and the fs91upd.exe's work that avoids the update to completely run.

 

Yet, since I'm not in the IT-business, I don't understand this question of yours: "Have you run the patch with UAC turned off?"

 

What is an "UAC"?

 

 

Sincerily,

Stefan.

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Turning off Mr. Kaspersky is wise. You can have the internet on or off for patch install, won't make a difference. UAC really needs to be turned off. You can easily find it by going to the Windows Start button and enter 'UAC' in the search box. Here you will see 'User Account Control settings.'

Click on it and then pull the slider down to 'Never notify.'

Once changed, go to your patch and run it. To be even safer, right click on the patch and select to 'Run as Administrator.'

Install the patch, everything should work if the registry path is correct.

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Mark, I have also, always, turned down UAC.

Just to recap, My install went as follows..

1. Install FS2004 into my C:\

2. :Praying: Ran it.

3. Installed the update

4. :Praying: Ran it.

5. Pasted the 9.1 unmentionable exe into FS2004's directory

6. Deleted the existing desktop shortcut, & made a new one for the 9.1 exe (dunno why I did this!)

7. :Praying:  Ran it.

8. Phew,  :Cuppa: coffee time!

:p0504: 

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Dear Skywatcher,

dear Wobbie,

 

 

whatever an "UAC" is, or an "unmentionable", I now went offline and shut down Mr. kaspersky and the fs91upd.exe run without problems.

Yet, the result is...

...well...

 

One issue that got fixed by the update was the water-texture not showing correctly in Asia.

To make it work the update changed the water texture global not by ex-changing each water-texture-bmp, but by putting a layer of another water texture just a "nano-meter" above the old one.

 

Thus it doesn't matter, what water textures I put in it afterwards, The layer with the updated one still is on top, covering whatever water texture you do install.

 

The FS91-water-texture isn't that bad. It just has the wrong color. The grey-touched turqoise-color might be nice by flying the "côte d'azur", but at the North See, the Atlantik Ocean, or the Mid-Pazific it just "feels" wrong, because it is wrong.

 

(I would upload an image of FS2004v9.0 and one showing the same spot at the same weather in FS2004v9.1, but I have no clue how to get the immages up here.)

 

So, how do I now get rid of that turqoiuse-water-texture layer?

 

(So far I just installed the FS2004v9.0, run it once to get the scenery right, installed the fs91upd and run it once, to get the scenery right.)

 

 

With very best regards,

Stefan

 

 

p.s.: I wont make it back online before thursday due to some real-life-duties.

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Unmentionable is the FS9.1.exe patch that lets you run  the sim without the disk.

UAC is User Account Control.

 

Disable UAC on Windows 7

Windows 7 makes it much easier to deal with UAC settings, and in fact you don’t have to completely disable UAC if you don’t want to. Just type UAC into the start menu or Control Panel search box.

You can simply drag the slider up or down, depending on how often you want to be alerted.

If you drag it all the way down to the bottom, you’ll have disabled it entirely.

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Just on UAC, if you have FS in the default location, very important to turn off UAC. If you don't, you may very well run across multiple problems in the future. Do some googling, masses of info on the net regarding UAC and having old games installed in Program Files on operating systems newer than Windows XP.

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Dear Wobbie,

 

I have the DVD-version of FS2004.

This version allready let run the sim without any disk.

 

Dear Skywatcher,

your mentioned "If you don't turn off the UAC, you may very well run across multiple problems in the future." ist a very interesting issue.

I will follow that in the future.

 

Anyway,

FS2004v9.0 now ist upsdated to FS2004v9.1 and there is this water texture issue.

 

I didn't bather about it the years before, yet now would like to get it right from the beginning this time.

 

Any idea, how to correct this, even though it autopmatically came with teh fs91upd.exe?

 

 

Sincerily,

Stefan.

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Ok, so you have FS2004 with the update, & that is FS2004v1 or FS9.1

 

Water is very difficult to decide on, & is very personal.

What you can do is to search in this library for ' water' (there are quite a few add-ons there)

Also, have a look at waterzone.zip in the library, also try fs9wat.zip

The last one is by Bill Lyons. Search in the library for his stuff. REALLY good!

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Dear Wobbie,
 
by putting "UAC" into the start menu in a administrator-rights-user-account, you get the UAC to open. After changing it, pressing okay, it doesn't closes. After closing it via red X and opening it again by again typing "UAC" into the start menu, it again is leveled as before, not yet switched of.
 
It seams under Win7 with more than one account (I do always have more than one user accounts at any PC, the one with all administrator-rights and one without all rights), it just isn't possible to switch of the UAC. In the help-menue it even gets to read "with more than one users it is not..." and so on.

 

Thus, how do you switch of the UAC?

 

---

 

Another issue:

I managed to run the fs91upd.exe with UAC runnuing, yet offline and Mr. Kaspersky and WinDefender shut down.

 

Now the water textures became wrong, because this is part of the update, to put a layer on top of the OEM-water-texture, to get it right in Asia.

By exchanging the water textures it still gets covered by the layer of the new ones.

 

How to get that back to the OEM-Version?

 

With very best regards,

Stefan

 

 

p.s.: if you tell me how to upload images here, I easily could show, what I'm writing about.

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The UAC control is there to ' protect' you against anything that you should not be doing in the C;\ directory, such as trying to edit config files. All it does is nag! Mine has been switched off for many years now, on both my computers.

 

Any new water effects or textures should overlay whatever is there.

Have a look at Aquarama

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=aquarama&CatID=root&Go=Search

File Description:
Introducing...FS2004 AQUARAMA! (Global Water Textures). A unique new water environment for the entire planet. Breathe life into your rivers, streams,lakes,oceans and all tropical waters. Go yachting over crystal clear lagoons or skim low VFR over deep blue majestic oceans! For the 1st time ever, illustrated manual includes FS2004 Aquarama screenshots compared to ACTUAL freakin` photographs! INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS AND SOME GREAT PHOTOS AND SCREENSHOTS CAN BE FOUND IN THE 'AQUAMANUAL.doc' MS-word file. Enjoy, Adnan Arif reload006@hotmail.com 
 

or search for aquarama in our library.

ALWAYS read the readme. I

ALWAYS install into a temporary directory, never directly into the sim.

Look & read what is in the folder & you will be able to see what folders will go into the sim.

By doing that, you will be able to see what folders in the sim need to be backed up BEFORE copying the folders from the temporary directory into the sim.

ALWAYS backup the folders in the sim that will have the new stuff copied into.

 

That should do the trick.

 

Cheers,

Robin

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